4 people shot one dead while offroading

When you cut through all of the opinions to arm one's self or not, remember one thing... these to ID ten T's shot and killed a child... they are a waste of oxygen, and need to have their supply dramatically reduced....

my .02:flamemad:
 
i can remember the last time i ran a mile in 18 minutes lol, im not fat, i dont smoke, i seldom drink. i dont feel the need to run unless im being chased :laugh:
You oughtta be able run a mile in under 18 minutes....I'm fat and lazy and probably still could. :D
 
i dont own a gun. but plan to very soon. and it has nothing to do with self defense from a human.. anybody that feels they could of scored better in that situation with having a rifle/shotgun/9mm etc in the car, while being ambushed outside the car, is crazy.

I want a Gun because i take my family into very remote areas for camping, and i would hate to think of any problems with bears or other large animals.

But its a proven fact that having a gun locked up in a safe has almost 0% chance in helping you when 2 dudes bust down your door and start shooting.. some of you have wild imaginations...
 
At my best I ran a 2 mile in 12:29. That said, now I run a mile in 18mins LOL.

Any updates on the charges on the two inbreds? This has been floating around for a while.
 
You can speed walk a mile in almost 18 minutes.

I don't think a gun woulda made this situation better. However there is cases where they would help. But Arguing Guns is for other forums and politicans.
I say we send these two some nice letters. Honestly they look like something out of Deliverance.
 
6 miles is a pretty good time for a non runner. The best I ever ran was 5:12 and that was after I ran for quite sometime. I have never ran more than 2 miles on a track but 18 inute 3 miles is def. a good accomplishment. I don't knwo your age but good luck
 
lol i was just kidding, my best i ran a mile in about 6 minutes... shortly there after i felt like i was going to pass out and die lol. stupid PE coaches
My best ever was 3 miles in 20:04, final PFT in Boot Camp. Best after boot camp was 22 something. Now...I could probably speedwalk a mile in 18 minutes...Gotta quit being fat and lazy! :D
 
My best was a 17:45, that was back in 94, now I can only muster a 21 or so.
 
I carry when I wheel but never thought about beeing shot when wheeling i always carried for mountian lions. But now i see you gotta watch everyone. You never know if some crazy bums will do.
 
Finally someone catches on to why it's stupid to say how you would've been packing and saved the day in this case. If these guys had been carrying, it would've done nothing to help in this case.

I agree with ya man. I was in no way saying it would have saved the day then, but you never know.

I have no problem with a gun for self-defence, I plan on picking one up and applying for CCW at some point, just because you never know,

Exactly.

...but I can agree with Shelby here on the attitude that seems to be portrayed by a few of the posters in here. The whole, "I got a gun so everything will be alright" thought process. Yes, having the gun could help save you or your loved ones, however, unless you have training and things go your way, it would be very easy for that same gun to be used against you. Either by the criminal or the courts.

Agreed 100%. I don't really think it's the "I got a gun so everything will be alright" attitude as much as "I got a gun so I will be able to defend myself if I need to." I have had training, and I practice shooting on a regular basis, trying to practice shooting and moving and different positions. I really want to get into some competition shooting like 3- gun and the like. It would be fun as well as sharpen the skills.

It's not about the gun, IMO, it's about being a responsible gun owner.
 
Funny this article brought up some old memories. I was maybe 10 years old and used to wander through a County flood control basin (kind of a wetlands full of wildlife) on a regular basis, maybe three miles from our home, a kid doing kid stuff. My mother had given me a watch and told me when and where to meet her and told me she would come to pick me up. Like most kids I waited till the last possible moment, then had to move right along to be at the meeting place on time. She had honked twice and I was maybe 50 yards away from the truck, when I hear a pop and something hit me in the back of the left leg. I kept on moving for a few more steps and my leg kind of folded. She comes walking up, looks at my leg, then looks up at some guy standing there with a 22 rifle pointing at us, maybe 50 feet away. If she would have been carrying, he would have likely died, she was a dead shot. What she did was to go into Lion mode, charged the guy, knocked him on his ass and beat on his head some with his own rifle. Picked me up and ran for the truck. By the time the Police showed up he was long gone.
I will never understand what made that guy shoot me, I was walking away down the middle of a dirt road, wide open field. No telling what is going through a nuts mind at any given moment.
With 360,000,000 people running around the country, I imagine similar stuff happens on a regular basis.
I guess we are all a products of our experiences. If somebody is shooting at me, I sure as heck want to have something handy to shoot back with.
The next time I went out to the wetlands, I was packing. I guess the alternative is to watch wildlife on TV and never leave your living room.
When my mother said jump, I asked how high, I didn't argue with her much? :)
 
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My mother made me well aware of the lioness instinct; I posted a pic of her in the ramdom pic thread possing with her .357. I am therefore aware of the fact that just because it's a woman dosn't mean it's an easy take. Survival of the fitest.
 
=) on another note... i just purchaced me a mossberg 500 with the 18" barrel and 28" barrel... now i just need to buy some shells!! prolly a few cases... yanno just in case :gee:
 
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