304 V8

Adam Duncan

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Good engine? Ive heard a lot of mixed things about it. I have a chance to pick up a recently rebuilt 304 for 500 for my 93 YJ. I planned on doing the 2.5L to 4.0L conversion, but if this is a better engine (note: better as in total reliablity, ect, NOT just HP/Torque) then I might just go with it. Ive heard carb engines struggle in steep hills and stall much too often. Just wondering what others think of it?
 
Disregarding HP & torque, the 304 is a great engine. The lower block is dimensionally identical to the 360, 390 and 401 AMC engines, but the 304 heads have smaller valves and you can't easily run the larger 360/390/401 heads because of interference problems. But the 304 is a very good engine in its own right. It just won't produce as much improvement as its big brothers if you try to hot rod it.

It has slant plugs, distributor in the front where you can get at it, good exhaust port design. There's a lot to like. Pay attention to oiling. The oil pump housing is integral with the timing chain cover, so to replace the oil pump you have to replace the entire front cover. Pump body is aluminum and the pump gears are steel, so replacing just the gears won't solve anything. The oil pump gears should extend ABOVE the pump housing by a few thousandths, to make up the gasket thickness so that when the pump is assembled there is minimal clearance netween the ends of the gears and the pump cover plate. You don't want an interference fit, but you also don't want a large gap.

Stock timing set uses a flat chain and the cam sprocket has nylon teeth. If it has that, scrap it and replace with a Cloyes roller timing set that has all steel gears. The nylon teeth can strip off and let the engine jump time.

Carbs do tend to starve on steep inclines and cross slopes, but there are fuel injection options for the AMC engines. Edelbrock just released a new multi-port injection for them, and there have been throttle body conversions available for several years. I just recently saw a thread on this topic on another forum, and the consensus was that for wheeling a 2-barrel carb is better than a 4-barrel. I'm not sure I quite buy into that, but that's the consensus on that thread. I'm biased toward 4-barrels because that's what I always ran ... but I was running street and race cars, not off-road trucks.
 
i have a 304 in my cj...its older but the idea is the same. i agree with eagle. i have beat the thing into submission for a long time, and due to its low compression (i think around 8:1) it has been more reliable than any other car i have owned...except for the toyota FJ60.
there are alot of performance parts for the 304 and they are relatively easy to aquire. in my cj i can take a 5.0 mustang off the line and hold 'em till around 50 mph...which is top speed for the cj. not bad for a motor that is 27 years old and has only had regular maintenance and no mods.
the only gripe i have is the strange sounds it makes when i pass gas stations, unleaded 87 here is up to 2.30 a gallon...
.02 cents...good luck!
 
my brother bought a cj-5 in 92 with the 304... had like 70,000 miles on it,....
he drove it for another 50,000 over the next 4 years, and rebuilt it after the oil leaks outran his maint. schedule...he traded it off in 97 and i was talking to the new owner the other day and it is still strong with almost 20,000 on the rebuild...
but for me if i go with a v-8...it'll be fuel injected, you can pickup a late model 302 fairly cheap and you can find some mustang hotrodders, and pick up their leftover factory parts and have a good setup...
but a carb is fine if you can adjust it, me im too lazy, give me the injection
 
Hawaiian Style said:
Eagle, you know so much about this stuff it's scarey. :worship:

One of the signs of Alzheimer's Disease is loss of short term memory. I was racing AMC iron so long ago that I still remember some of what I knew back then. It's the info I need now that I have problems with. :bawl:
 
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