who has what bumpers?

JCR almost like RocknXJ But I have a winch on mine I love its looks and function nice d-ring holes too it helped me out of that frickin Mud @ seirrafest But I have to say it needed a little per swaying to get it installed I think my XJ is alittle tweaked or bent and it makes it seem strengthens the whole front end

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Thanks for all the info guys. I am going to be doing light wheeling but i want something that will last through the years. I am doing light stuff right now but who knows where the future will take me so i want to build once and build it right.

For the back i know i want a tire carrier and a place for a gas can. I dont like the c-rok rear carrier though because it mounts the tire to high and blocks to much of the rear window. I also want a place for the hi lift but this is not a must because i can mount it on the roof. I don't like roof racks because they can get hung up on trees and shit so i have a rack in the back of the jeep i am building. i can also mount the hi lift inside.

Thanks again for all the info.
 
If you want my advice, if you are going to get into real offroading and going into some of the harder trails, get a bumper with a real winch mount.

I don't trust the detachable winch mounts at all. They kill your aproch angle if they are installed when driving, and if it is out and you get stuck in a muddy spot, you have to pull it out and hook it up and get all muddy.
 
Letterman said:
If you want my advice, if you are going to get into real offroading and going into some of the harder trails, get a bumper with a real winch mount.

I don't trust the detachable winch mounts at all. They kill your aproch angle if they are installed when driving, and if it is out and you get stuck in a muddy spot, you have to pull it out and hook it up and get all muddy.
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What? So if i have a winch bumper and get stuck in the mud, I won't get muddy?:dunno:
 
scottmcneal said:
What? So if i have a winch bumper and get stuck in the mud, I won't get muddy?:dunno:
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Good question!

Just climb out the window, crawl on the hood, pull out enough rope onto your hood to throw the hook to someone on dry land. If you still have cable it can be done but not as easy.

Very hard to lift a reciver hitch winch out a window and install it upside down as you are liing on your hood.
 
scottmcneal said:
What? So if i have a winch bumper and get stuck in the mud, I won't get muddy?:dunno:
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What he means is, if your winch is sitting in the back of the Jeep and you get stuck in mud, you will have to get out, get the winch out of the back of the Jeep then try and attach it to your front bumper. Which might be completely submerged in the mud and good luck digging it out. I just had to winch out of a mud hole and didn't get muddy at all. All I had to do was reach across and plug in the winch controller.

Another worst case is what if you flop and need to use your own winch to right yourself. Have you tried lifting a 80 pound (not sure of the exact weight) winch and mount plate into position on a rig that's on it's side???

The idea of a detachable winch if great BUT not very practical if you are going to wheel anything other than fire roads. If you are going to spend the $$$ on a front bumper and plan on adding a Winch then get a bumper that mounts the winch directly to it.

Plain and Simple :-)
 
Actually, it seems that way, but mine were SUPER sticky. They worked great, and that pic is weird, they aren't that stiff.

Another bumper pic.

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Who makes a front bumper with a place to put a winch so you cant see it. I dont like how bulky they look. I would rather a hidden one.
 
Letterman said:
If you want my advice, if you are going to get into real offroading and going into some of the harder trails, get a bumper with a real winch mount.

I don't trust the detachable winch mounts at all. They kill your aproch angle if they are installed when driving, and if it is out and you get stuck in a muddy spot, you have to pull it out and hook it up and get all muddy.
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i really really hate mud and i fully agree on the approach angles's... but 1 i never like to wheel alone and 2, you should always wheel with someone with a winch =) problem solved! lol

actually THIS JEEP i have now i dont plan on it being a serious contender, the jeep im trying to get is going to be my beater upper... that one is the one i plan on tearing up on rocks.
 
MaxxXJ said:
i really really hate mud and i fully agree on the approach angles's... but 1 i never like to wheel alone and 2, you should always wheel with someone with a winch =) problem solved! lol

actually THIS JEEP i have now i dont plan on it being a serious contender, the jeep im trying to get is going to be my beater upper... that one is the one i plan on tearing up on rocks.
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If you spend any time in the rocks at some point you will get stuck, most the time you only use your winch for about 6 to 18 inches to get you off/over the rock.

Asking the person in front of you to find a place to turn around, drive back down and pull you for a short tug, then find a way to turn back around each and everytime you get stuck is not the best way to make friends on the trail. It can make a short trail a very long day.
 
Letterman said:
If you spend any time in the rocks at some point you will get stuck, most the time you only use your winch for about 6 to 18 inches to get you off/over the rock.

Asking the person in front of you to find a place to turn around, drive back down and pull you for a short tug, then find a way to turn back around each and everytime you get stuck is not the best way to make friends on the trail. It can make a short trail a very long day.
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i hear ya, my new delimma starting today is, buy a winch bumper and a winch for say 800 dollars.... OR goto this body shop and buy a pre-96 cherokee for 800 dollars, already has a lift on it, body's a little beat up but it is straight. front bumper looks a little pushed in, but overall it dont look bad.
 
I agree that a winch bumper is better than a non-winch bumper, especially when you are determined to wheel in places that require frequent recovery, but I park my beast outside and I did not want to expose an expensive winch to constant weather and thieves. Plus, the Jeep being a DD would require lugging that much more dead weight around on every trip. All things being said, I opted for something that I could add a hook, removable winch, or front hitch when pushing my trailer into the garage. My multifunctional bumper is the Swiss Army knife of bumpers.
 
lol rockn... now rockn, my question is... why couldnt i unbolt the winch from the winch bumper and throw it in the garage the same way you did your hitch mounted one?
 
MaxxXJ said:
lol rockn... now rockn, my question is... why couldnt i unbolt the winch from the winch bumper and throw it in the garage the same way you did your hitch mounted one?
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Because its more of a pain in the ass to do. With our bumpers you just slide it in and put a pin in it.
 
I'll stick with FlexdXJ's answer to that question. It is all about economy, I suppose. When I finally get a winch I'll probably wish I had an actual winch bumper, but for the time being, I'm happy with my Stage IV and thinking that I'll actually use a winch on a winch plate. We'll see. I'm conflicted that way. Best thing to do is be happy with the decision you made and convince others that your chit is the best. :)
 
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