Who are you voting for?

[JohnJohn]

I think Obama is the best presidential choice we have had since Reagan.

Please tell me something, policy wise, they have in common?

 

[Ben H]

Comparing Obama to the late great President Reagan is one of the dumbest and insulting things I have heard since Monday. I once thought that information you posted was relatively genuine, despite being polar opposites on the political spectrum. Now all of your gibberish is discounted to the point of bullshit in my eyes. Sheer SPOBI.

 

[tupton]

:lecture: I think Tom R. just got a taste of his own medicine.

 

[Tom R.]

:lecture: I think Tom R. just got a taste of his own medicine.

I did? :shhh:

 

[red91]

Please tell me something, policy wise, they have in common?

This is going to be a long night....


:read:

 

[JohnJohn]

Right back at ya on the revised history and half truths comment! But you may be right it may be impossible to discuss this rationally with you since you won't post any published data to back up your own claims, biased or not.

Sorry but you can make that claim of being biased just because my sources prove my point and not yours. As far I am concerned your revised history is the one that is biased!

All right now tell me this is biased data mister!

"In 1998, the Federal budget reported its first surplus ($69 billion) since 1969." "In 1999, the surplus nearly doubled to $125 billion, and then again in 2000 to $236 billion. As a result of these surpluses, Federal debt held by the public has been reduced from $3.8 trillion at the end of 1997 to $3.4 trillion at the end of 2000 and to an estimated $3.2 trillion in 2001. With continued prudent fiscal policies, the budget can remain in surplus for many years. Under the President's budget proposals, $2.0 trillion in Federal debt held by the public will be retired over the next 10 years—all of the debt that can responsibly be retired."

All found on the whitehouse we site!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2002/guide04.html

But I guess it is biased too?

It also says: "By 1992, the deficit reached $290 billion. Budget deficits have gradually declined since that high point, returning to balance in 1998. In 2000, the budget surplus was $236 billion. Why have we been able to move from deficit to balance? The main reason is because strong economic growth has increased tax receipts faster than the growth in Federal spending."

Here is the Congressional Budget office details, but be sure an check out figure 1-3 for of my biased data:

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/89xx/doc8917/Chapter1.5.1.shtml

Yes you are right.


D: Keneddy - started Vietnam
R: Nixon - fought Vietnam
R: Ford - finish Vietnam
D: Carter - tried to fight Iran (crash and burn)
R: Reagan - fought cold War
R: Reagan - fought cold War
R: GHW Bush - fought 1st Iraq War
D: Clinton - pu$$y
D: Clinton - pu$$y - bombed Yugoslavia that was about it
R: GW Bush - fought Afgan War
R: GW Bush - fought Afgan & Iraq War

Wars cost money

 

[red91]

Yes you are right.


D: Keneddy - started Vietnam
R: Nixon - fought Vietnam
R: Ford - finish Vietnam
D: Carter - tried to fight Iran (crash and burn)
R: Reagan - fought cold War
R: Reagan - fought cold War
R: GHW Bush - fought 1st Iraq War
D: Clinton - pu$$y
D: Clinton - pu$$y - bombed Yugoslavia that was about it
R: GW Bush - fought Afgan War
R: GW Bush - fought Afgan & Iraq War

Wars cost money

I thought the government bought lotto tickets and cashed them in...

 

[Bent]

R: Reagan - fought cold War
R: Reagan - fought cold War AND WON!

 

[Ecomike]

Please tell me something, policy wise, they have in common?

Did I say they had any policy positions in common? No, I don't think so, if I did it was not my intent.

Reagan was one hell of a great motivational speaker, IMHO, just like Obama, IMHO. Being a great motivational speaker is important for a US presidential leader, IMHO, especially with such a divided country (politically divided that is).

The next President, V.P., He, & / or she needs to be able unify the majority of Americans, Congress, and US allies to get anything done in the next 4 years.

Other than that, I would need to think long and hard about their policies (Reagan - Obama) and any similarities, if there any. I do know they both had, have the same (or at least very similar) positions on the abortion issue. Reagan was opposed to abortion, but he was not in favor a no exception anti abortion amendment to the US constitution like the ultra far right wing moral majority has been since the late 1970's.

I don't think a McCain-Palin administration will have the temperment to work with a Democratic Congress, which means McCain would give us 4 more years of stalemate in Washington, which would be very bad for us right now.

 

[JohnJohn]

Did I say they had any policy positions in common? No, I don't think so, if I did it was not my intent.

Reagan was one hell of a great motivational speaker, IMHO, just like Obama, IMHO. Being a great motivational speaker is important for a US presidential leader, IMHO, especially with such a divided country (politically divided that is).

The next President, V.P., He, & / or she needs to be able unify the majority of Americans, Congress, and US allies to get anything done in the next 4 years.

Other than that, I would need to think long and hard about their policies (Reagan - Obama) and any similarities, if there any. I do know they both had, have the same (or at least very similar) positions on the abortion issue. Reagan was opposed to abortion, but he was not in favor a no exception anti abortion amendment to the US constitution like the ultra far right wing moral majority has been since the late 1970's.

I don't think a McCain-Palin administration will have the temperment to work with a Democratic Congress, which means McCain would give us 4 more years of stalemate in Washington, which would be very bad for us right now.

I would agree. They are/were great motivators. I believe that's were the agreement with you ends.

Reagan spoke about ideaology. Obama motivates by talking about change, change from those before him. In my mind this means he is letting others define him.

Reagan we a teacher, he taught Liberals about "trickle down economics" and being tough on our enemies. He did not bring two sides together. He sold them on what he thought was best.

Having everyone get along is a farce. All conservatives should do is teach, bring others around to our way of thinking. Agreeing to disagree is a waist of time from a conservative stand point. Think the way we do our fight amongst yourselves.

Abortion has not bearing on which candidate I vote for, no bait for me there.

 

[Ecomike]

Reagan we a teacher, he taught Liberals about "trickle down economics" and being tough on our enemies.

I'm still waiting for my first economic trickle, LOL!:cheers:

 

[JohnJohn]

I'm still waiting for my first trickle, LOL!:cheers:

making my points for me now. Go and get your own trickle...stop waiting and complaining you haven't got yours yet. :angel:

 

[Ecomike]

Having everyone get along is a farce.

So shall we pick the weapons of our choice, and step back ten paces?

:shiver:

If so, I pick words!atriot:

 

[Ecomike]

making my points for me now. Go and get your own trickle...stop waiting and complaining you haven't got yours yet. :angel:

I gave up way back in the mid 80's on that song and dance, trickle.

 

[ZacSquatch]

I vote based on guns... because we can fix a nation with them if it comes to it...

Viva la revolution

My morals really are fawked up...

 

[Ecomike]

Having everyone get along is a farce. All conservatives should do is teach, bring others around to our way of thinking. Agreeing to disagree is a waist of time from a conservative stand point.

IRRC Nixon, Reagan and Bush actually agreed to disagree with the Communists and started the process of looking for common ground with them. So I guess that was a farce too.

 

[Ecomike]

I vote based on guns... because we can fix a nation with them if it comes to it...

Viva la revolution

My morals really are fawked up...

I still like the old bumper sticker, have not seen one in decades. It said you can take my gun from cold dead hands....

 

[JohnJohn]

IRRC Nixon, Reagan and Bush actually agreed to disagree with the Communists and started the process of looking for common ground with them. So I guess that was a farce too.

in the USSR during Nixon, Ford, Carter, they had free elections?

Reagan did not agree to disagree with the Soviets. Reagan & Thatcher changed that nation and freed the nations under the old iron curtain. Dude, Reagan settled and compromised with no one.

 

[Tom R.]

I don't think a McCain-Palin administration will have the temperment to work with a Democratic Congress, which means McCain would give us 4 more years of stalemate in Washington, which would be very bad for us right now.

I think they're more likely to work with a Democrat-led Congress. McCain has demonstrated his willingness to work across party lines many times during his career, which is why ultra-conservative Republicans don't really care for him. I'd venture to say that Obama-Biden are much less likely to work across party lines.

 

[kujito]

Undecided. Stuck between a Barack and a Hard-Ass.
I still need to see some debates. What are your plans? I need details. Plus, I need to see them under pressure without spoon fed lines.

Just watched the Palin speach. Impressive. Not a whole lot of substance, but impressive nonetheless. She's apparently ready for a fight. Biden loves to fight. Those debates oughtta be entertaining.