which wench in the wenching best

triple 4

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Im going to get a wench, but I not to sure which is the best I know theres ramsey, warn, mile marker, and so on I was just woundering if any one has any pros and cons about whenches.
 
triple 4 said:
Im going to get a wench, but I not to sure which is the best QUOTE]


cheap Wenches are usually the best, they work really hard to make a buck, but you gotta be careful not to catch anything with them, the more you spend the better she will look and the less chance of getting something

good luck take some pics
 
Yea, some say they are slow, I have a warn 9000, and it seems that sometimes it pulls a little to fast. I hate haveing to "blurp" the winch off and on so much. so what I am really saying is that slower isnt really bad IMO.

Aaron
 
My Milemarker will do the job, but it's not reliable. Spend a little more and buy quality (Warn).
 
X2...warn!
 
I hear alot of negativity torwards Milemarker being slower than snot and not all that reliable...they are a good bit cheaper than a Warn, but is it really worth it to you to save a few bucks on a peice of recovery equipment that might leave you stranded??

I for one would buy a Warn and nothing else....they all break, they all arent all that fast, but warn seems to have the best reputation on the block and most of them are rebuildable.
 
funvtec said:
triple 4 said:
Im going to get a wench, but I not to sure which is the best QUOTE]


cheap Wenches are usually the best, they work really hard to make a buck, but you gotta be careful not to catch anything with them, the more you spend the better she will look and the less chance of getting something

good luck take some pics
Stop it! You're killing me..........Hans
 
I've never heard anyone say a Mile Marker is the best winch, usually the opposite. I've also never heard anyone say that a winch was too fast. When you're on the winch faster is better so it's harder to drive ahead of the winch and get loose wraps on the cable, which then get kinks when the cable pulls tight again. Faster is better.....

I thinks it's very universally accepted that Warn makes the best winches.
 
If you're in that big of a hurry to get "unstuck", I guess the speed of the winch would be an issue. Most of the time, I just want to get unstuck. I don't care how long it takes. I have two Warn X8000i ($800+) winches and they work fine for me. But, a Chicago Electric 8,000# winch (around $299) would do the same thing. It would just take longer.

Of course, one could argue that Warn make a better winch just by name alone. Who's to say that my Warn is not going to fail when I need it? Who's to say the guy with the cheap a$$ no name winch won't be the one to get me out.

Get what you can afford. You won't be using it as much as you think and it's an expensive hood ornament...

Soon we'll be debating electric vs. hydraulic...... (i think I hear the sound of someone beating a dead horse...)
 
I agree with that CJ. For what you spend on a winch to how often you may actually use it is the key. I think if you are running the Rubicon all the time and constantly use it for a competition where time matters I would go with a Warn but for those who get into the occasional aw poop deal I would go for something less. Me personally I will go with a MM or CE and get the extended warranty. Winch is still a ways away for me though.
 
GirlScout1 said:
I agree with that CJ. For what you spend on a winch to how often you may actually use it is the key. I think if you are running the Rubicon all the time and constantly use it for a competition where time matters I would go with a Warn but for those who get into the occasional aw poop deal I would go for something less. Me personally I will go with a MM or CE and get the extended warranty. Winch is still a ways away for me though.

I got a Warn 8000 and I'm realy happy with it. I've used it a fair amount pulling others out as well as pulling myself out and it hasn't failed me yet. Why did I go with Warn? Recommendation of those who use their winches a fair amount.

Someone mentioned that the winch was pulling too fast. I came across that complaint before and from my experience it ussually turns out to be a situation where the winch wasn't really that necessary.
 
I play on the rocks and i know my limits but, I disagree with above, i found that with the winch i will get myself in situations where the only way out- is a winch!. I use mine frequently (when it works). If its not me, then other wheelers that don't have a winch get ballsy and try stuff they shouldn't.
 
If it's for dead horses get a hydraulic. For recovery electric won before the contest even started because it works without a running engine.

Not to hijack, but it's Christmas and I have to share a good memory about a boy, his truck, and to stay sort of on topic, it's winch:

Had a '71 Dodge PW that had a nice PTO winch. Ramsey. My dad and I sort of shared this truck, and abused the truck and winch for years pulling big logs and hauling bigger loads of wood and other stuff.

318, NP435, divorced Spicer gear drive upright transfer case, all cast iron. Dana 60s all around, rear locker, it was one tough truck and we were fearless in that truck and the places we took it and the things we did with it. Did manage to break the winch one time but I have to say it wasn't easy.

It was my DD for a number of years (yeah it had road manners, just not nice ones) and nothing and nobody got in it's way. Gun rack in the back window always carried loaded rifles, with shotguns & pistols stashed under the seat & in the glovebox (one can never have too many guns and Oregon recognizes that with fewer unreasonable limits than most other places).

It was all stock and not fancy, but not beat up either, just a good Republican MAN's truck, yet one of a kind in the town where I grew up and the object of much envy in the hearts of my friends, it stood proud and tall in the sea of ordinary fast cars and mere half tons the rest of them had, until that moment of youthful indescretion when I sold it.

I get around a lot faster and (adjusted for inflation) cheaper in everything I've had since, but I miss that truck (sniff).
 
It appears that there are folks making comments here that do not have winches.......don't know how you can answer someone's question about winch recommendations if you don't have one and haven't used one. There are plenty who use winches regularly, let them answer the question.

As usual, a lot depends on what type of terrain you normally wheel in. If you wheel in mud, then I guess it makes little difference how fast it pulls you out. If you wheel in any kind of rocks, then the winch speed makes a difference. The issue is not how quickly you get unstuck, the issue is overdriving the winch and getting loose wraps in the cable, then getting kinks in the cable from the loose wraps, then the winch cable eventually breaking where the kinks are, and someone potentially getting hurt.

If you only need to move a few feet to get unstuck, no big deal, but many times it's necessary to negotiate an obstacle under winch power, which means driving and using the winch at the same time. As the tires get a little traction the rig can move ahead under it's own power a little faster than the winch which puts loose wraps in the cable, then the tires can slip and the cable gets tight again, putting a kink in the cable over the loose wraps. Technique is important, keeping the winch going and working the throttle to avoid overdriving the winch, but the faster the winch is the better. Again, it has nothing to do with getting through the obstacle faster, it has to do with not damaging the cable and causing a safety concern down the road. Get what you can afford, but faster is better.

Someone made a comment doubting the reliability of a Warn winch relative to some of the others. I've been on trails using winches for a long time, and have seen many of them in use, and have seen plenty of them fail. Warn unquestionably has the best record for reliability in winches. That doesn't mean that the other winches are bad, or won't get the job done, but it does mean that if you have the money to get a quality winch you should seriously consider getting a Warn.
 
CJHVN said:
If you're in that big of a hurry to get "unstuck", I guess the speed of the winch would be an issue. Most of the time, I just want to get unstuck. I don't care how long it takes. I have two Warn X8000i ($800+) winches and they work fine for me. But, a Chicago Electric 8,000# winch (around $299) would do the same thing. It would just take longer.

i guess you've never run into situations where speed is somethign you need. some obsticals require a quick recovery after being stuck. speed is always good in my oppinion.

CJHVN said:
Of course, one could argue that Warn make a better winch just by name alone. Who's to say that my Warn is not going to fail when I need it? Who's to say the guy with the cheap a$$ no name winch won't be the one to get me out.

the reason behind buying quality is to try to eliminate the times when you will need someone else to do your work because of a failure. do not go into the decision of buying a winch with the mentality there are reasons why some manufactures have a good rep and some do not.

if your on trails that you have frequent chances of getting stuck buy a winch and save your money for a good quality unit. if your gonna be on dirt roads and splash thru the ocasional puddle and get stuck once in a great while invest your money else where and get a come-along for those rare stuck occasions. just like many other aspects of building a rig there are many places quality is somethign you don't want to skimp on.
 
Goatman said:
As usual, a lot depends on what type of terrain you normally wheel in. If you wheel in mud, then I guess it makes little difference how fast it pulls you out.

living in the midwest, i unfortunately have to deal with mud sometimes......especially muddy hill climbs where there is almost no traction and you must winch up while trying to drive up. so, i'd say that even for mud, you want a fast electric winch so you don't overrun your cable.
 
Goatman said:
It appears that there are folks making comments here that do not have winches.......don't know how you can..................................... getting a Warn.

chereo to a quick typer
 
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