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wrong. ive been running it for almost a year without a problem. install them right and you wont have any problems. ive got 2 buddies with the same setup, one of them going on almost 2 years and they work everytime. why the heck would you have oil coming up your airlines? did someone get a hole in the brass line in the diff?
 
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93XJLI said:
Every time I hit the gas my Lock Right is money well spent :D

my tires are expensive, i think id rather not bark them around every turn. nothing against your lock right, but my arb;s have never let me down and work flawlessly every time i wheel.
 
team510 said:
my tires are expensive, i think id rather not bark them around every turn. nothing against your lock right, but my arb;s have never let me down and work flawlessly every time i wheel.
They only bark when your on the gas, getting in the habit of letting off becomes natural. Plus you won't even notice it in the front in 2wd.

ARBs are nice, but not for the wallet! They do have more problems and upkeep, judging this from "almost a year" of running one doesn't make the prior statements wrong!

Another vote for the Aussie! You can get 2 of them cheaper than one ARB.
 
I am glad that your ARB works for you, it should. But they have broken before as well as Detroits. Theres is nothing inherintly bad about an ARB, just more components to break. If a lunch box locker breaks you can just replace it with the original spider gears and go home. If your ARB or Detroit breaks, hope you have a spare carrier and tools to regear, or extra line, or an extra compressor.
 
team510 said:
my tires are expensive, i think id rather not bark them around every turn. nothing against your lock right, but my arb;s have never let me down and work flawlessly every time i wheel.
you obviously have never driven with an auto locker.
don't drive like an idiot and you'll not see any significant tire wear.

also, please watch your language, there was no need for that expletive in your prior post. This is a family oriented board.
 
I run an Aussie up front and it is NOT silent, lol. It clicks around turns, but when you are making sharp turns it starts to pop, same thing for in 2wd its pops pretty good in 4wd. I've looked at it 3 times and its installed correctly, just the way it is. A friend with one in his YJ and its silent and another friend with an XJ and his is louder like mine. I hear it has something to do with the shafts being a little too long, but whatever, never had an issue just noise.

Anyways I'll be going with an OX on my next axle.
 
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team510 said:
wrong. ive been running it for almost a year without a problem. install them right and you wont have any problems. ive got 2 buddies with the same setup, one of them going on almost 2 years and they work everytime. why the heck would you have oil coming up your airlines? did someone get a hole in the brass line in the diff?

Every single person I have known who ran ARB's for a long period of time has had them blow a seal or a brass line. I currently 4 on 2 rigs installed by 3 different experianced installers, and 2 of the 4 have leaked in the last year. You can claim installer problem, but every installer does have it happen.

I'm not saying arb's are worthless, but they are far from troublefree. I run them because they are the only locker available in the application I wanted; but I do not suggest them to others.
 
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ZachMan said:
I run an Aussie up front and it is NOT silent, lol. It clicks around turns, but when you are making sharp turns it starts to pop, same thing for in 2wd its pops pretty good in 4wd.

No one said it was silent... but I have on in my 30 and have to listen for the clicking. It doesn't "pop" on sharp turns either. Sounds like you have something wrong somewhere.

If you don't have a vacume disco, it will click in 2wd, but it won't actually lock. Therefore it doesn't have any ill effect on driveability or tire wear. I have a home brew posi lock on mine, and have gotten to the point I just keep it locked.
 
TRAILREADYXJ said:
No one said it was silent...

nosigma said:
I have had no problems with the Aussie. Easy to install. The front is silent in 2wd or 4wd.

Mine clicks normal, but on sharp turns in 2wd or 4wd it pops pretty loudly, enough for me to stop and do a 3-point turn. My XJ is a 99 and my buddys '00 does the same thing. Aussies only advice was a bent housing...gee thanks. I do think its that the shafts are too long, I was told upgrading to alloy shaft may make it stop since they may be a mm or 2 shorter.
 
ZachMan said:
Mine clicks normal, but on sharp turns in 2wd or 4wd it pops pretty loudly, enough for me to stop and do a 3-point turn. My XJ is a 99 and my buddys '00 does the same thing. Aussies only advice was a bent housing...gee thanks. I do think its that the shafts are too long, I was told upgrading to alloy shaft may make it stop since they may be a mm or 2 shorter.
Auto lockers just make noise in tight turns. That's just how it is. Personally, it doesn't bother me. I will gladly put up with a little, occasional, noise in exchange for the unbeatable reliability of a maintenance free auto locker.
If I had the extra money to spend on a selectable locker I would consider it but for a daily driver the Aussie/Lockright combo works best for me.
 
jeeperjohn said:
Auto lockers just make noise in tight turns. That's just how it is. Personally, it doesn't bother me. I will gladly put up with a little, occasional, noise in exchange for the unbeatable reliability of a maintenance free auto locker.
If I had the extra money to spend on a selectable locker I would consider it but for a daily driver the Aussie/Lockright combo works best for me.

amen brotha.
 
oh geeeze sorry one F-bomb got dropped. Hope i didnt offend anyone. You guys keep granny driving your jeeps around turns as not to wear out your tires, and ill just keep driving my leaky breakdown lockers. any why would i need to carry extra hose with me? are you running the line next your your exhaust or on the bottom of your control arms or something? and a cracked airline takes literally 12 seconds to fix with those slide on pieces arb sells for dirt cheap. to me it just seems like any rig i see that is really set up, like a buggy or something, almost always has at least 1 ARB on it. maybe i have an unfair view of their products since even if i do break mine i can get it taken care of for nothing. whatever though guys. bag em all you want but ill be on the trail right with u. happy wheelin!
 
team510 said:
oh geeeze sorry one F-bomb got dropped. Hope i didnt offend anyone. You guys keep granny driving your jeeps around turns as not to wear out your tires, and ill just keep driving my leaky breakdown lockers. any why would i need to carry extra hose with me? are you running the line next your your exhaust or on the bottom of your control arms or something? and a cracked airline takes literally 12 seconds to fix with those slide on pieces arb sells for dirt cheap. to me it just seems like any rig i see that is really set up, like a buggy or something, almost always has at least 1 ARB on it. maybe i have an unfair view of their products since even if i do break mine i can get it taken care of for nothing. whatever though guys. bag em all you want but ill be on the trail right with u. happy wheelin!
Take it easy, dude. I've been running lunch box lockers for about 10 years. I had a lock-right in the rear of my old Blazer and now I'm running a No-Slip in the rear of my XJ and a Lock-Right in the front. They work as advertised. The axles differentiate around corners as they should resulting in NO TIRE WEAR. The only time you get tire chirp is if you apply enough power to spin a tire. In other words, you have to really nail it. Under normal driving conditions you will not have any problems. ARB's are more problematic and as Murphy's Law dictates usually at the least opportune moment. No slam here, it's just the nature of the beast. They are much a much more complicated piece of machinery. When they are working they work great, but when they aren't, the owners are cussing them. I'm just telling you what I know from first hand experience.
 
team510 said:
oh geeeze sorry one F-bomb got dropped. Hope i didnt offend anyone. You guys keep granny driving your jeeps around turns as not to wear out your tires, and ill just keep driving my leaky breakdown lockers. any why would i need to carry extra hose with me? are you running the line next your your exhaust or on the bottom of your control arms or something? and a cracked airline takes literally 12 seconds to fix with those slide on pieces arb sells for dirt cheap. to me it just seems like any rig i see that is really set up, like a buggy or something, almost always has at least 1 ARB on it. maybe i have an unfair view of their products since even if i do break mine i can get it taken care of for nothing. whatever though guys. bag em all you want but ill be on the trail right with u. happy wheelin!
yeah, one f-bomb, that's all.

read the forum rules, there's not to be ANY f-bombs tough guy.

and for what it's worth, I'd rather have my detroit, it never failed, I didn't have to flip a switch or install OBA, I just installed it and it worked.
 
87manche said:
yeah, one f-bomb, that's all.

read the forum rules, there's not to be ANY f-bombs tough guy.

and for what it's worth, I'd rather have my detroit, it never failed, I didn't have to flip a switch or install OBA, I just installed it and it worked.

sorry tough guy. you go ahead and run your detroit thats never failed and ill run my arb thats also has never failed. and just for the hell of it i went to pirate and searched "ARB reliability" and a huge majoirty of posts about people questioning their reliability or which locker to get, the overwelming majority of people on there (including competition guys) said ARBs if not both at least in the front. one guy said hes run them in like 5 competition rigs for years and not one arb failure. have you ever even used an arb or just read about it on a forum? im sorry, but im pretty sure the guys that are running comps in big dollar buggies know a bit more about diffs that you. just a guess though, your probably going to say you build comp rigs everyday for your profession or something.
 
team510 said:
sorry tough guy. you go ahead and run your detroit thats never failed and ill run my arb thats also has never failed. and just for the hell of it i went to pirate and searched "ARB reliability" and a huge majoirty of posts about people questioning their reliability or which locker to get, the overwelming majority of people on there (including competition guys) said ARBs if not both at least in the front. one guy said hes run them in like 5 competition rigs for years and not one arb failure. have you ever even used an arb or just read about it on a forum? im sorry, but im pretty sure the guys that are running comps in big dollar buggies know a bit more about diffs that you. just a guess though, your probably going to say you build comp rigs everyday for your profession or something.

Well since it came from Pirate it MUST be the bible. Look tough guy My buddy runs a Comp buggy and guess what no ARB and its had no problems, but two other rigs at the last event had ARB failers which cost them a DNF, NOT GOOD. Run what ever you want, but anything that has more working componants is going to be more prone to fail than something with less componants. I run both, Aussie in front, ARB in back, and for 3 years now my Aussie has not failed me once, the ARB has had leaking issues and one sylinoid go bad.
 
Comparing competition rigs to daily drivers is not an apples to apples comparison. Competition rigs are checked over very carefully before any competition. They also aren't being used every day so they don't see the normal wear and tear that a daily driver will see.

I've seen two ARB's fail on the trail so far. Nothing serious in either case, one was a broken air line on a TJ. She had ARB's in the front and the rear. The failure occured on a nasty hill climb. She ended up breaking an upper control arm when she had to switch form crawling up the hill to blasting up under full power. The other was on a YJ. He had a problem with the air pump. He didn't break anything but couldn't tackle obstacles he had driven 5 hours to try. It definitely ruined his trip.
 
can't we all just get along!

i do agree that a less complex system is much less likely to have a failure tho, and you'll have extra money left over to invest in other things. just my $ .02

lance
 
i never had a problem i just dont like when i give my input about something ive had zero problems with, all of my friends with the same setup have had zero problems, and some guy on here whose never even run an arb says that mine are sucking oil up the tubes etc just cause he heard someone popped a line or something. then just cause i talk like a sailor apparantly now im "a tough guy". whatever. i dont really care what lockers anyone uses, i just said what i like to use and i got dogged for it.
 
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