**UPDATED** HHO GAS....

I dont think they are busted. Personally I think 2 things. One, this guy is a scam and there is the ease to scam with this. Two, that this idea has potental but is not anywhere near viable at this stage of the game. there are too many unknows in making HHO in sufficent supply at this point.

Just my opinion of course, and i have nothing to support this on hand.
 
I dont think they are busted. Personally I think 2 things. One, this guy is a scam and there is the ease to scam with this. Two, that this idea has potental but is not anywhere near viable at this stage of the game. there are too many unknows in making HHO in sufficent supply at this point.

Just my opinion of course, and i have nothing to support this on hand.

I Agree, but it was a useful post to this thread to keep others from getting sucked into real scams like his.

Even the best most proven items are sometimes sold and peddled by crooks and scams....... All that story shows for sure is that he was a crook, a smooth talking silver tongued devil, cheating others, and playing off their needs and desires, it does not prove that HHO has no basis in sound science or practice. I still see potential for it. I don't see 50% to 100% fuel economy improvement benefits from it. That sort of claim should be the first warning of an all out scam and fraud.
 
Lockness Monster, Chupa Cabra, Honest Politicians, Obama and the 2nd Amendment, Big Foot, Yeti, Mermaids, Fair and Impartial Judges, Zombies, and HHO.
 
It's not a scam- it's just that every single setup tested happens to be from the wrong guy/company/garage/plans/website/design/universe. In some other country, they're selling thousands of these things (I read this on the internet, so I know that's true), so it's got to work, right?

Even the best most proven items are sometimes sold and peddled by crooks and scams.......

I'm a little slow at this hour, but what sorts of good, proven things are sold by crooks and scams?
 
Before I ask these questions just let me say that I know this works, I have seen it work, I have made it work, and will continue to make it work. SOOOOOO if your the type of asshat pseudo scientist that wants to throw 100 different theories at me as to why this won't work, Feel free to write your theories down on paper, roll them up nice and tight, shove them as far up your ass as humanly possible, and try to fart confetti, OK!?

NOW, to the questions......to those of you who have built cells, have you experimented with different electrolites? In all that I have built I use Roebic's Crystal Drain Opener (available at most hardware stores, I buy mine at lowes). It is 100% lye, so be careful handling it, but it works very well. I start with pure distilled water in the cell, then with my power supply hooked up to it I add the lye until i draw between 8 and 10 amps. Works very very well. Also, have you tried pulsing the current? I use a simple control circuit copied from one of those conspiracy sites that the aforementioned asshats are so afraid of, and that makes a HUGE difference in gas output! Also, if you are using flat plates (which you should be) lightly sanding the plates will greatly reduce the ammount of bubbles stuck to the plates. If any of you are interested in seeing some of my cell designs send me a PM, i can send you pics and drawings of what I have done and a few Ideas i have yet to try!
 
The value of Roebic's Crystal Drain Opener stock will no doubt shoot up today as the full import of the Curtis_H report is felt across the country! And I have to be envious of all the money Curtis (may I call you Curtis?) is going to make as the full import of his research streams across the internet.... In the meantime he effortlessly wins the NAXJA Family Oriented Thought of the Week vocabulary award while incidentally developing a secondary source of income deriving from the manufacture of confetti.

Truly a Renaissance Man!
 
The value of Roebic's Crystal Drain Opener stock will no doubt shoot up today as the full import of the Curtis_H report is felt across the country! And I have to be envious of all the money Curtis (may I call you Curtis?) is going to make as the full import of his research streams across the internet.... In the meantime he effortlessly wins the NAXJA Family Oriented Thought of the Week vocabulary award while incidentally developing a secondary source of income deriving from the manufacture of confetti.

Truly a Renaissance Man!

:worship:
 
Before I ask these questions just let me say that I know this works, I have seen it work, I have made it work, and will continue to make it work. SOOOOOO if your the type of asshat pseudo scientist that wants to throw 100 different theories at me as to why this won't work, Feel free to write your theories down on paper, roll them up nice and tight, shove them as far up your ass as humanly possible, and try to fart confetti, OK!?

NOW, to the questions......to those of you who have built cells, have you experimented with different electrolites? In all that I have built I use Roebic's Crystal Drain Opener (available at most hardware stores, I buy mine at lowes). It is 100% lye, so be careful handling it, but it works very well. I start with pure distilled water in the cell, then with my power supply hooked up to it I add the lye until i draw between 8 and 10 amps. Works very very well. Also, have you tried pulsing the current? I use a simple control circuit copied from one of those conspiracy sites that the aforementioned asshats are so afraid of, and that makes a HUGE difference in gas output! Also, if you are using flat plates (which you should be) lightly sanding the plates will greatly reduce the ammount of bubbles stuck to the plates. If any of you are interested in seeing some of my cell designs send me a PM, i can send you pics and drawings of what I have done and a few Ideas i have yet to try!

Why don't you go ahead and post up detailed schematics of your system for other here to try out. Jeepman121 might be interested in it.
 
I'm sorry Curtis, but your WRONG. They have taken these "miracle devices" to test facilities and guess what?? when turned on, they decreased mileage!! Scream until your blue in the face, your either one of them (snake oil salesmen) or a stupid sheep. Here comes your most feared word...THERMODYNAMICS!! it would take a 25hp boost for noticeable MPG gains...a 12v battery will never put these numbers out....EVER. You are using more fuel to run your scam than if you didn't believe everything you saw on the net and ran your vehicle stock. So many people have done this with no proven results....if you think your getting better mileage it's because your faulting your own results. you are probably babying the throttle, coasting more, trying not to come to complete stops at red lights...etc. Just because you say it works doesn't mean it does....you have no proof. However, several people have indeed proven this is NOT POSSIBLE!!!. you can not generate enough hydrogen to make up for what energy you used to make it...PERIOD.
PS I have a time machine I can give you a good price on....It works, because people on the internet said so.
 
The value of Roebic's Crystal Drain Opener stock will no doubt shoot up today as the full import of the Curtis_H report is felt across the country! And I have to be envious of all the money Curtis (may I call you Curtis?) is going to make as the full import of his research streams across the internet.... In the meantime he effortlessly wins the NAXJA Family Oriented Thought of the Week vocabulary award while incidentally developing a secondary source of income deriving from the manufacture of confetti.

Truly a Renaissance Man!

BigAlpha you forgot to post the nomination, and Pelican, I like what I am seeing here. You should go red, or petition an Admin for rights to the den because we can use your type of humor in there
 
I will be done posting here after this so any flames you may have should be sent through PM, if it will make you feel better. Just want to let you know that I am in no way connected to anyone trying to sell anything to do with any of this, including Roebic's, and in no way stand to gain anything from any of you trying it. Of course, most of you will not believe that, and thats fine, I don't need or want your approval. Most of you will probably continue to consider me the snake oil salesmen. I really want to know something though, what is it about this idea that pisses you people off so much? I mean really, why do you care? Nobody is trying to take anybodys money here, nobody wants to scam anyone out of anything. Nobody's life or safety is threatened. Why do you bristle so strongly at the idea of people experimenting with it? Just because whatever science you believe in makes you think it's not going to work doesn't mean no one should try it, if that were the case there are quite a few good inventions out there that would never have seen the light of day. I guess what i want to know is why do you care if people try this? Hell, maybe one of us will get it right and change the way science is taught, its happened before you know.



Here's some more snake oil for you all.......i've slowed down with the browns gas and now im working on running my jeep off of wood gas, completely gasoline free. I suppose that doesnt work either, does it.................
 
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2) Nobody is mad that people are experimenting with HHO. As a matter of fact, I bet that all of us here hope that someone can get the HHO to work flawlessly and actually be effective enough to be worth the trouble. I know that I wouldn't mind a 25% increase in my gas mileage.

The issue is: whether or not it works well enough hooked up to your vehicle to actually work effective enough to offset it's consumption and then add further beneficial effects.

Now, our issue with you is that you come on here blasting "pseudo-scientists" but you haven't proven your point, and so far it doesn't look like you'll openly post pictures, schematics, diagrams or testing of your system.

So, until you come back with some sound science (or even pictures, schematics, diagrams or testing of your system) and if you can manage to get off your high horse without breaking both your ankles, maybe you quit with the sensationalism.
 
All you (or anyone) has to do, Curtis, is demonstrate that it works. Since you do have a running, functional system, you could get rich marketing the only successful HHO generator, make the world a better place, and life better for many of your countryman.

With so much to gain, and so little to lose, why would you refuse to do such a thing?
 
I don't need or want your approval. Most of you will probably continue to consider me the snake oil salesmen
"I Just get really mad when people don't agree with me"
I have a time machine...and it runs off of HHO. And since you all read it here, it's absolutely the truth ok, but I'm not trying to impress anybody by putting it on here.
 
Before I ask these questions just let me say that I know this works, I have seen it work, I have made it work, and will continue to make it work. SOOOOOO if your the type of asshat pseudo scientist that wants to throw 100 different theories at me as to why this won't work, Feel free to write your theories down on paper, roll them up nice and tight, shove them as far up your ass as humanly possible, and try to fart confetti, OK!?

NOW, to the questions......to those of you who have built cells, have you experimented with different electrolites? In all that I have built I use Roebic's Crystal Drain Opener (available at most hardware stores, I buy mine at lowes). It is 100% lye, so be careful handling it, but it works very well. I start with pure distilled water in the cell, then with my power supply hooked up to it I add the lye until i draw between 8 and 10 amps. Works very very well. Also, have you tried pulsing the current? I use a simple control circuit copied from one of those conspiracy sites that the aforementioned asshats are so afraid of, and that makes a HUGE difference in gas output! Also, if you are using flat plates (which you should be) lightly sanding the plates will greatly reduce the ammount of bubbles stuck to the plates. If any of you are interested in seeing some of my cell designs send me a PM, i can send you pics and drawings of what I have done and a few Ideas i have yet to try!

You still got some of that aforementioned confetti up your ass, man? Hows about you try not sounding like a self-righteous prick when you post! :anon:
 
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