Try finding parts for your Jeep made in the USA- No way !

[DaJudge]

RESET hit the point by stating he is a non-UAW automotive worker. That is the true key. The UAW and most other unions lost their focus about 60 years ago. The president of the UAW makes 5 million a year, do you think he really gives a sh@# whether he betters anyones position but his? People as a whole are lazy, if they aren't held accountable for their work they don't care. No motivation means poor work habits.

I grew up in Detroit and I know first hand how stupid the unions have been for the last 30 years. Why do you think most of the foreign manufacturers who have plants here have built them in right-to-work states? That's my RANT!

Glen

 

[bjoehandley]

We are a nation of lazy people. That fact can't be denied. We are also cheap...which is why we outsource for everything. Why pay an American union worker $15+ per hour when you can pay a foreigner $.50 per hour to build the same part?

But then why does it seem that half that stuff isn't cheaper once it hits the shelves than what it was when made here in the states.

 

[Fergie]

JeffU R Retarded.

All the fat fawks UAW don't deserve the wages they make. Why should we, as a country, reward complacency and over-specialization. Nothing says lovin' like pigeon hole-ing yourself.

It isnt about made in America, it is about finding a good balance between cost, and quality.

Until the American mentality regarding Captalism is changed, so that profit is not the bottom line, nothing will change.

Shift the paradigm.

Fergie

PS- Anyone want over unders on how long until Captain Ron chimes in with some of his knowledge and cryptic statements?

 

[johnlv6]

But then why does it seem that half that stuff isn't cheaper once it hits the shelves than what it was when made here in the states.

Why the fawk are the greedy corporations that outsource and move jobs overseas going to pass their savings on to you?

When an item is assembled by someone making less than 1/10 of the salary of a domestic worker (ex. Any clothing manufacturer and VW), it's costing less to produce....they wouldn't be moving production overseas if it wasn't.

 

[johnlv6]

i dont agree. we are a nation run by computers. we are not so much lazy as we are productive. some analysts somewhere saw that by using computers and outsourcing, not only could we save money, but we could make/do multiple times more things done per day than the old way.

just because we dont use hard labor to make products HERE does not mean we are lazy, it means we found a better, more efficient way of doing so.

I'm not going spend my time linking to web sites confirming that the average American waist line has expanded and there are less engineering/technical degrees given in the U.S. than foreign countries. The average student educated these days in public schools is less advanced in comparison to their foreign counterparts (that could also be proven by a five minute web search)...that's probably explained by the fact that the average American kid spends more time infront of a TV/xbox than a textbook.

 

[Kittrell]

I'm not going spend my time linking to web sites confirming that the average American waist line has expanded and there are less engineering/technical degrees given in the U.S. than foreign countries. The average student educated these days in public schools is less advanced in comparison to their foreign counterparts (that could also be proven by a five minute web search)...that's probably explained by the fact that the average American kid spends more time infront of a TV/xbox than a textbook.

But then you get into "higher education" costs in the US versus overseas, and thats a whole nother can of worms............

Tuition costs keep going up, and quality of education keeps going down. Half of my professors barely spoke english. Lets put an individual with a heavy Moroccan accent, in charge of a Comprehensive Literature class.............

 

[SS01XJ]

http://www.howtobuyamerican.com

 

[xjj33p3r]

WHITE POWER!

Dude, did you know that your jeep came FROM THE FACTORY with parts "Hecho in Mexico"? It's not their fault that they were contracted to build parts for your jeep.

 

[rocklandxjer]

I'm not going spend my time linking to web sites confirming that the average American waist line has expanded and there are less engineering/technical degrees given in the U.S. than foreign countries. The average student educated these days in public schools is less advanced in comparison to their foreign counterparts (that could also be proven by a five minute web search)...that's probably explained by the fact that the average American kid spends more time infront of a TV/xbox than a textbook.

Please don't be more ignorant than a 17 year old...

The reason why an AVERAGE US student is less advanced is because we have no child left behind laws. we believe that every student deserves a chance to be educated.

In countries like China, Japan, and India, they have specialized schooling systems wherein they weed out the less "advanced" students early on to go to vocational schools, thus not counting in the national percentage. they constantly weed out slower students until they are the best and brightest, leaving millions un educated and unable to find a better job than say... american car parts maker...

Also, who do you think gets all of the engineers there buddy. do you think a straight-out-of college indian engineer is going to stay in india to make 5 bucks an hour, or is he going to come to america to make upwards of $70,000 a year? They may put a lot of them out, but they dont stay there, think of how many rocket scientists there are in this country teaching at the collegeate (sp?) level, how many of them are either german or indian...

 

[muledriver]

Finding US made parts is almost imposible. WE have become a service based country. we have jobs selling, servicing, delivering, and instaling primarilly goods that have been manufactured by other countries, to each other. Most of these products you cant even repair by design. If you look back historically at almost all of the products that we use, started off as an American invention. with labor costs, environmental constraints and Osha regulations we have forced or even encuraged the large companies to look for other more "friendly" work enviromnents. As an employer myself I am amazed at the number of 35 year old college grades who are living at home with mom doing their laundry. WE have a young "jack Ass" society who applauds the slacker and then bitches when they call for tech support for their computer game and a person in india answers the phone. As a 38 year old gulf war vet who has been in 13 countries I can tell you. if you think its better somewhere else, go. You are in for a rude wake up call. One of you had a trailer that ask what would Lincoln do?
He would look around and go ah F*ck!!:flame:

michael

 

[johnlv6]

Please don't be more ignorant than a 17 year old...

The reason why an AVERAGE US student is less advanced is because we have no child left behind laws. we believe that every student deserves a chance to be educated.

The world needs ditchdiggers....we'll figure that out eventually.

 

[Blaine B.]

I'm all about American products, but they are hard to find. I'm not going to spend extra time searching for American parts when I need something replaced RIGHT NOW. As long as it works, lasts, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg, I'm happy.

 

[Root Moose]

It's ironic, I have no such problems (look at location on my post header).

When I go to the parts store I usually have two or three choices:

1.) Chinese junk

2.) mid grade stuff - could be manufactured in Canada or USA or not - sometimes even Chinese. Regardless, quality is there.

3.) "high end" stuff. Typically manufactured in North America or the country of origin of the car (German cars getting German parts, Japanese to Japanese, Canadian built Hondas/Toyotas/Suzuki/etc. get Canadian parts, etc.)

I usually stick with "AC Delco" type brands. They bounce around level two or three above. Depends on what the price point is on the part. I priced rear calipers and rotors for the rear axle I'm building back in the summer. IIRC the rotor could be either $12, $27 or $55. Based on that I got Delco at $27. The $12 part was Chinese junk. $55 was for SGP (Suzuki Genuine Parts).

That said, some of the "Chinese junk" is quite good. But some of it is really bad. I don't like rolling the dice with my free time so I normally don't buy Chinese Junk unless word of mouth from other gearheads tells me otherwise.