today's carnage

[boostamante]

Ambitious or lead footed? That doesnt look like it was cause by treading lightly.

Note to self, don't wheel with Dan, he always breaks **** ;P

 

[scottmcneal]

Dan I think it is time to learn how to use your right foot.Not being a a$$, I know when I went total locked, I had to learn over. Now I try to go as slow as I can to make things, more fun. Maybe this winter you can come out and run in the MALL parking lot with the COOL KIDS.

 

[cracker]

yes and no. this is the only issue for this front end so far. shoulda built a 60 lol

cut the dana 30 crap off and put d60 inner C's on those tubes

Dan I think it is time to learn how to use your right foot.Not being a a$$, I know when I went total locked, I had to learn over.

x2

more seat time looks needed

 

[Vanimal]

i dont just floor it on everything. there is no crawling up that rock (for any of us), you have to bump it at the top to avoid just sitting on your undercarriage with all 4 of your wheels in the air. i didnt even come close to flooring it, the tires slid to the side and caught another rock and caught traction.
this is my first trail side repair other than replacing a stock tie rod. I happen to know someone in here talking **** that has spent more time than i have on the trail fixing his rig since i've been wheeling with him

 

[Vanimal]

cut the dana 30 crap off and put d60 inner C's on those tubes




x2

more seat time looks needed

if any of you can clear that rock by crawling in a full bodied xj/mj, i will buy you copious amounts of beer. there's just no way.
and i dont pull that crap off my home turf.

 

[scottmcneal]

Looking from side of your pic, it looks like you could.Need pic of other side now and then we'll chat about it.LOL

 

[Paul Airhart]

yes and no. this is the only issue for this front end so far. shoulda built a 60 lol

the stuff i did with the 31's isnt even a challenge with the 35's. so if i was doing the same stuff, i would never break anything. the issue is the more capable the rig is, the more challenging stuff i try. I clear a lot more, but it seems to break easier when i actually have to try. i just don't have to try nearly as much.
i could and do lay off at times, but if i'm 10 minutes from home, i tend to be a little more ambitious.

Your slinging some pretty heavy tires. The inertia of a 35", IMHO, is just too much for a d30 if You really wheel it hard. Bummer about the carnage. :tears:

 

[rockclimber]

cut the dana 30 crap off and put d60 inner C's on those tubes
x2

more seat time looks needed

this man speaks from experience

:wave:

 

[rockclimber]

Looking from side of your pic, it looks like you could.Need pic of other side now and then we'll chat about it.LOL

I can back dan and say unless you run a giant mile high mall crawler, you need some force to get you over.. my jeep on 33"s wouldn't do it, too low.

 

[Vanimal]

the rock it's sitting on drops off right in front of the rear wheels. the rear tires are in the air (by at least a foot), and the front tires are in powdery dirt with zero traction. if you don't have enough momentum to get the jeep to slide a foot or 2 on it's belly before the front tires come off that rock, your rear tires will be touching nothing. the dirt is like baby powder there. if you try crawling, you might make it just until your front tires get off the rock, but you'll still have pretty far to go before the rears are touching anything.

 

[Vanimal]

Your slinging some pretty heavy tires. The inertia of a 35", IMHO, is just too much for a d30 if You really wheel it hard. Bummer about the carnage. :tears:

i have a high pinion dana 44. the only thing that is dana 30 is the wj knuckles, ball joints, brakes, and stubs. the ujoint was a spicer 760 with full circle clips, shafts were chromoly. i dont think the dana 30 stuff had much to do with the failure. but i guess if i had the dana 60 outers like Cracker suggested, i'd have bigger u joints so that may have helped. but at that point i'd probably just build a full dana 60. :gee:

when i decided to build the dana 44, i thought i'd be fine with it given the wheeling i was doing at the time. but the more i wheel and build my rig, i'm noticing i'm only going to get bored and go bigger.
i really should fix this thing, do the few things to get it to where i initially planned to take it, then build a buggy for when i feel like hammering on crap. i do like having the fulll bodied heep for a lot of things, so i dont want to turn this one into a buggy.

 

[Vanimal]

this man speaks from experience

:wave:

bump stops would have prevented that

 

[GSequoia]

If you had 44 or higher Cs and knuckles you probably wouldn't have ejected the knuckle.

 

[Vanimal]

true, but that was fairly minor. it was actually easier to get the inner shaft out this way, i didnt even have to take off the wheel

 

[ocean_jet]

I can back dan and say unless you run a giant mile high mall crawler, you need some force to get you over.. my jeep on 33"s wouldn't do it, too low.

x2.

You're not going to slowly creep over that obstacle in crawl mode... unless you're taller.



That is the same place I pulled you off last time I went to LW with you.... yes?

 

[Vanimal]

x2.

You're not going to slowly creep over that obstacle in crawl mode... unless you're taller.



That is the same place I pulled you off last time I went to LW with you.... yes?

yep lol
figured i'd give it one more shot since my rear locker works now. no more trying that line anymore lol

the only way i can see clearing it is to be taller with a MUCH shorter wheelbase. but then it would be sketchy as hell to get your wheels up there. i dont even think my buddy's suzuki sammi on 37's can clear it.

 

[Vanimal]

Interesting day indeed.

All's I'm saying is that if I would've bothered to air down like you did I would've made it no prob!

I'm sure you realize you got lucky on that breakage...could have been a lot worse by taking out your knuckle, C, etc. You got her rolling again in no time.:repair:

haha even aired down, you still need the correct line


yea, i know i got lucky there. i think it look less time to fix it than most people spend swapping a shaft since the wheel, brake, and unit bearing didnt have to come off. you saved my arse with the spare balljoint though adding those to the tool box.

 

[cracker]

this man speaks from experience

:wave:

I am pretty certain if you dig hard enough you can pull up carnage from everyone who has wheeled hard over the years.....we all learn from our experiences. Go look up Goatman...you'll have hours of carnage to find.

This break was awesome...wheels were going straight...climbing slowely and then kaboom. Broke three alloy shafts (one on the other side), an actual D44 knuckle, and a 300m u-joint in that explosion. That pic was the beginning of a long cold night before making it back to a bottle of Patron at camp.

 

[Vanimal]

well there's the issue, you had a matensitic u joint
would you bother with those again? wondering if it's worth it for me.
i hear ya on the d60 outers but that's just not in the cards right now.

 

[garrett83]

if any of you can clear that rock by crawling in a full bodied xj/mj, i will buy you copious amounts of beer. there's just no way.
and i dont pull that crap off my home turf.

I don't see any height restrictions in the rules of this challenge!! When do you want to go watch me try this?!!:badpc: