the plasma cutter told me to do it

[XJEEPER]

hey where in the world is oneton? i want to see some pics of his rig, most of the old ones don't work on here.

He's prolly off shaving someone's rear.......diff, that is.

 

[Beezil]

hey where in the world is oneton? i want to see some pics of his rig, most of the old ones don't work on here.

who fawkin cares?

I like the peace and quiet.

 

[forgiven]

oh yeah 1/4ellip is cool it is just a bit of tuning compared to other ways and it seems like you could go through leaf packs fast.

i am not sure what to do with the suspension. i would like to do coils or coilovers but that is more money and time. leafs are so simple i could just weld on shackle hangers and be done with it. but then i would want more flex so i would do 3/4 ellip and then i would need a traction bar... and with all of that work i could basically do a 4link! i don't know what to do. what do you think?

-nate

Would please explain a 3/4 elliptical spring set-up. I believe there can only be 1/4, 1/2 & full. Thanks.

 

[XJJPR]

who fawkin cares?

I like the peace and quiet.

Are you pissy or just jealous that they didn't ask for pics of yours?



hinkley

 

[4ward]

Are you pissy or just jealous that they didn't ask for pics of yours?



hinkley

Bwaaaaaahaahaaaaaaaa, good one hinkey

I'm here, just haven't put any pics up. Go look for pics on the 20th anniv. event board.

See if this works, stealing from Jes.

 

[4ward]

My personal favorite, it's my screensaver right now.

 

[XJJPR]

Funny thing is, is that OT is broken in both those pictures.



hinkley

 

[Beezil]

yes, there can absolutly be a 3/4 set-up.

commonly refered to as a "buggy spring" set-up.

 

[Fullsizexj]

yes, there can absolutly be a 3/4 set-up.

commonly refered to as a "buggy spring" set-up.

I thought buggy springs was opposing one on top of the other ???

 

[4ward]

I thought buggy springs was opposing one on top of the other ???

That would be a full elliptical. Picture an ellipse, then section it off in 1/4's. Get the picture?

 

[xj_punk]

Would please explain a 3/4 elliptical spring set-up. I believe there can only be 1/4, 1/2 & full. Thanks.

oh okay if you say so... i was just making it up!
no seriously though, it is also called "buggy leaf" but that is more of a "i am a dumbass" term than the more professional sounding 3/4 elliptical!

it is a regular leaf spring set up except on the shackle there is a leaf spring attached up side down and it is bolted to the frame rail so that when extra droop is required it bends downward and provides the extra droop.

it is a cool setup, it requires a traction bar if you want to use it well, and limiting straps... some people still don't like it and say it is ineffective, but it is my jeep not theirs and i have seen it work. basically it is a way to squeeze more flex out of leaves.

-nate

 

[Economos]

Matt aka: Wanderingwillys has a sweet buggy spring setup under his rig - I bet he might chime in before too much longer...

 

[xj_punk]

Matt aka: Wanderingwillys has a sweet buggy spring setup under his rig - I bet he might chime in before too much longer...

yeah his setup is cool, i like it. i was actually thinking about inboarding my springs a little and making them under the new frame, but i am not sure if i want to. technically you lose sidehill stability, it can be counteracted by angling your shocks more like he did, but i am not sure if i want to make this thing less stable at all. inboarded springs flex like mad though, the closer together they are, the less it takes to work em.

 

[vintagespeed]

Would please explain a 3/4 elliptical spring set-up. I believe there can only be 1/4, 1/2 & full. Thanks.

Look it up. A 3/4 elliptical spring is basically a full lower leaf pack with an upper buggy spring attached at the rear shackle, thus allowing the leaf to droop further away from the frame.

 

[vintagespeed]

I thought buggy springs was opposing one on top of the other ???

You're right in that old Model A's & T's had leaf springs that sat perpendicular to the frame and the body sat balanced in the center of the spring. This is a true 'buggy' spring.

Some joker stuck the monicer on a 1/2 leaf spring & now it's THE TERM.

 

[Fullsizexj]

That is what I thought as the old horse drawn wagons had them that way under the drivers bench seat, which is where buggy springs were first used, look it up if anyone disagrees, this is where it all started

 

[Matt]

Matt aka: Wanderingwillys has a sweet buggy spring setup under his rig - I bet he might chime in before too much longer...

Present!

The inboarding thing has been hashed out plenty here so search a little rather than re-opening that can of worms...

I like my setup and the only thing I would and did do differently was to move the rear axle back a little bit more (it was a pain to rework the traction bar)

I used a YJ main leaf and cut it just in front of the OEM spring pin hole, I then just use a bunch of little tubes (1" 3/16" wall - 5/8" ID) welded to a plate on the unibody - the bottom of the frame was plated with 1/8" and a hole drilled to locate the spring - then there is a spring plate with holes to run a bolt through the plate and tube assembly to snug it all up...

I am curious to see how it flexes now that I lost some weight from the back end...

These are some old pics but shot the setup pretty well:

 

[ashmanjeepxj]

hey where in the world is oneton? i want to see some pics of his rig, most of the old ones don't work on here.

I got some more built on the weekend. I hope to finish up the back roof section this next weekend. I really like the front bumper now.