The Dana 34 Project: The Ultimate turd polish!

[Begster]

The point here I believe is he has these axles laying around and he has the baility and equipment to do it. When done it will have the flat top knuckles and lockouts with .50" wall tubes and the high clearance of a D30. Seems perty kool and intresting to me.

I agree, I think you have a point there. But what I think everyone else is saying is that he will be going through all that trouble for nothing because he will be running a stock carrier, and doesn't want to upgrade that, which I also think is a valid point.

 

[Ghost]

I agree, I think you have a point there. But what I think everyone else is saying is that he will be going through all that trouble for nothing because he will be running a stock carrier, and doesn't want to upgrade that, which I also think is a valid point.

It's not that he does not want to its that he does not want to spend the $$$$. I think once the spiders get all welded up that carrier will be a lot sronger then it was stock. I know when I did the D30 for a friend we went back and basically made it almost solid.

 

[WaXJ_Skier]

cool idea, I think once you get down to reinforcing the D30 you be at the same weight as a D44. I think I would have shaved a 44. But it is an interesting concept, and nice to see a new lighter duty idea. For shits and giggles you should shave the 30 and see how much clearance you gain.

 

[jeeperjohn]

I think you need to use a 30 spline detroit. I have split a stock carrier in half with 33's and an Aussie.

 

[asp]

I think you need to use a 30 spline detroit. I have split a stock carrier in half with 33's and an Aussie.

This.

 

[WaXJ_Skier]

I think you need to use a 30 spline detroit. I have split a stock carrier in half with 33's and an Aussie.

I say just buy some liquid nitrogen and self cryo the whole axle. :chef:

 

[Ironmanandy]

Here are a few pics of the parts and comparison:
D44 spiders next to D30 obvious size difference. No way they will fit in the carrier. I know the image says 35 I changed it in P bucket but it won't change on here. Just note its a Dana 30 Spider.

This is the stock 44 spider next to the Ground down spider. I actually just chucked the gear in the lathe by the barrel and held a flap sander on the grinder to it until it was close and turned the rest off. I wanted it as tight a fit as possible to STRENGTHEN THE CARRIER when welded.

Stock set up.. Little gear lots of room in case.

The spider is a very tight fit and will add considerable amounts of strength to the case when welded in place. All gears will be welded to each other as well as the spiders to the Case. The once weak Case will be a very solid check of material.

Here is the progress dismantling the 30 and 44, still looks scary as hell at this point. I do understand everybody's doubts here LOL!

Here is a cool pic of my spring pad adjustable bump stop pads and my bump stops I have to this axle. I may switch to an Air bump set up from F-O-A

another with a tape measure to emphasize the BEEF!

I Hope this helps a little. I will add more pics as I make more progress I am waiting for my New plug weld drill bit to get here.

 

[WaXJ_Skier]

so if you use the same naming structure, would the TJ rubicon D44s actually be D43s because they have Dana 30 knuckles?

 

[Ironmanandy]

LOL you can name them anything you want but that makes sense. They also have thinner axle tubes, and weaker outer shafts. After I try this with my dana 30 I inted to do it with a dana 44 and 60 outers. I like your comment about the Cryo hardening the whole axle. Not a bad idea.

 

[Ghost]

LOL you can name them anything you want but that makes sense. They also have thinner axle tubes, and weaker outer shafts. After I try this with my dana 30 I inted to do it with a dana 44 and 60 outers. I like your comment about the Cryo hardening the whole axle. Not a bad idea.

You will not use my D60! :greensmok

 

[shortxjdoug]

i still see the ring and pinion as being the killer here.....i know the 4.56's in the 30 i have sitin around look like dog chewtoys next to the 5.13's in my 44.... and the 5.13 pinion is small enough to still make me nervous....

 

[Ironmanandy]

as mentioned before this will be the weak point, I may stick with a 4.56 since I am only using a 33" tire.

 

[cracker]

This thread lacks something....

Will you have a shaved Dana 35 in the back? :gee:

 

[WaXJ_Skier]

This thread lacks something....

Will you have a shaved Dana 35 in the back? :gee:

Centered HP30 duh!

 

[cracker]

Centered HP30 duh!

That is more consistent with what I see here.

But it needs to be 30 spline so it can use D44 shafts :laugh2:

 

[WaXJ_Skier]

That is more consistent with what I see here.

But it needs to be 30 spline so it can use D44 shafts :laughs:

might be fun to build a light, small engine buggy. Go cart tube frame. 32s and HP30s front and rear.

 

[kastein]

might be fun to build a light, small engine buggy. Go cart tube frame. 32s and HP30s front and rear.

two seats back to back, each one with a steering wheel... you better not mind talking to the other person much.

 

[Ironmanandy]

reminds me of those old station wagons from back in the day with the rear seat facing backward..

I think Ill just run an 8.8 in the rear.

 

[Ghost]

I think Ill just run an 8.8 in the rear.

EW! :explosion :roll: :laugh2: :roflmao:

 

[cracker]

reminds me of those old station wagons from back in the day with the rear seat facing backward..

I think Ill just run an 8.8 in the rear.

8.8 isn't all too bad. Needs some stuff to make it 'right' though.

C-Clip eliminators, weld on tubes better, actual 1310 yolk, and they actually make higher spline axles/carriers for them.