Terrehautian's where I have been, where I want to go, how do I get there build thread

Okay, tires pretty decided, with holding size I go with. What lift kits should I think about.
 
You want cheap or good?
 
Cheap, good and easy. Pick two.

If I were building a XJ from the ground up I would go straight for Brian's 3 link with Rubicon Express 4.5" coils and leaves with shackle relo boxes. Never have to touch it again.

For a novice mechanic, IRO's 4.5" kit is a good bolt-on kit if you can get around the whole front suspension relying on a 10mm bolt.

My opinion only, take it for what it's worth.
 
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For a novice mechanic, IRO's 4.5" kit is a good bolt-on kit if you can get around the whole front suspension relying on a 10mm bolt.

My opinion only, take it for what it's worth.

The controversy with the iro kit is with the long arm, otherwise it's still using the two 10mm bolts that all the other short arm kits use.
 
I am not leaning towards either. I just am budgeting around 3500 for everything. The lift kit I will probably just have a garage put on (haven't had one in mind yet, so if anyone wants to earn some money doing it, I am open to that also if the price is right). If I had a lift and air tools at my disposal, I might attempt it. At this point, I was thinking up to about 2k for lift kit with the associated goodies needed (SYE, etc). I could add more if I went for gears and locker also.
 
FWIW... 4.5" on short arms with no SYE sucked... id stay 3" and still budget in a SYE.





is it fair to assume that your spare time is extremely limited due to obligations or that you have a disability of some sort? because while it can be a bit frustrating the first go around, doing a lift isnt very difficult with a little planning and basic hand tools. im not one to preach "built not bought! blah, blah, blah!"... but your going to consume a large portion of your budget on shop fees. even if you have to run around and buy tool/parts your still going to come out ahead of having a shop install a basic lift. besides... turning a few wrenches (and being able to fix a problem if it arises) is going to be something you encounter on the trail.
 
My free time is very limited on weekends most of times (I normally have two weekends a month where my wife works where I have all day Saturday free). I already got a quote for around 400 to put a basic kit on at a garage (7 hours of shop time). I can do basic stuff like brake work and oil changes but beyond that I haven't done it and don't want to attempt it alone. I am willing to learn with some helping me do it, it isn't my daily driver so it can sit for a few weeks while being worked on.
 
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My free time is limited too. You know what i do? Use it well, nobody wants you the be the guy on the trail who doesnt know anything about his vehicle.
 
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My free time is limited too. You know what i do? Use it well, nobody wants you the be the guy on the trail who doesnt know anything about his vehicle.

This. I've done plenty of work to my own vehicles. I'm fairly my mechanically inclined and a lift isn't that hard, granted I have had a lot of help but I make sure I provide beer and food and sometimes cash to those who have helped me.
 
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TH, it sounds like its going to be a bit before you have the funds to pull this project off. My best advice for you is to spend the next several months, minimally, and read, read, read. Research each kit you're interested in and then when you think you've decided, read some more. Find out exactly what tools you're going to need and get them, you're going to need them all at some point anyways, might as well pick them up before hand.

Then ask on here for assistance getting it together. Someone will lend a hand, hell I'll come down and help over summer.
 
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I am not leaning towards either. I just am budgeting around 3500 for everything. The lift kit I will probably just have a garage put on (haven't had one in mind yet, so if anyone wants to earn some money doing it, I am open to that also if the price is right). If I had a lift and air tools at my disposal, I might attempt it. At this point, I was thinking up to about 2k for lift kit with the associated goodies needed (SYE, etc). I could add more if I went for gears and locker also.

I have less than that into my WHOLE jeep.

K"buy, sell, trade"man
 
This. I've done plenty of work to my own vehicles. I'm fairly my mechanically inclined and a lift isn't that hard, granted I have had a lot of help but I make sure I provide beer and food and sometimes cash to those who have helped me.
this man has the right attitude.

I have less than that into my WHOLE jeep.

K"buy, sell, trade"man
your journey has been a long one, you dont count.
 
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This. I've done plenty of work to my own vehicles. I'm fairly my mechanically inclined and a lift isn't that hard, granted I have had a lot of help but I make sure I provide beer and food and sometimes cash to those who have helped me.

And you can barely walk!!!!




this man has the right attitude.


your journey has been a long one, you dont count.

You got your first jeep around the same time I bought mine. And I know for a fact that TH had his around the same time that I had my green one that I traded for the Comanche, that donated its suspension and axles to the white one.
 
TH, you want what everyone else has so that you can drive in the snow and cruise around on the green trail on the badlands. You're shooting way higher than you need to.

You need a 3" lift on 31's. They're all basically the same, save for spending the extra cash on full leaf packs and not an AAL. Get yourself a nice set of shocks, put on some shackle boxes and then enjoy it. Learn how to do it yourself. Buy yourself the tools to install it and then fix it.

Build your garage the way everyone else does, one tool at a time. You don't need to save for a year and then blow all your money trying to make your jeep way more capable than you are of driving. Spend that money on ratchets, wrenches and sockets, not on someone else to do it for you. Shit, you don't even need a garage. I did my first lift in the driveway with used parts and a socket set.

There's truth to the idea that you build it right the first time and you save a bunch of money that a lot of us have gone through building one step at a time. But the same can be said for someone that spends a ton of money on stuff they don't need, building a jeep to a size they don't need, just so they can drive back and forth to work and take it on the occasional trail ride.

Do yourself a favor. Stop asking everyone else what you should do. Figure out what you want your jeep to be and do it. Learn the hobby, that's what this is. You don't buy into the hobby, you teach yourself how it works, you learn how to fix it and how to build it and then you make lifetime friends on the trail when you're underneath each other's rigs helping each other out.

And you got a lot more free time than you think you do. Trust me.
 
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