Steering wheel alignment

i know i have at least 1 plumb bob and i suppose i cant have it a 100% dead even just darn close. i know plumb bobs have the string and it drops straight down, but what 2 points am i referencing from? like frame rail to top of the coil bucket, i know the 2 points dont match thats just examples
 
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RoyalXJ said:
aligning the wheel will not change the toe. you are not adjusting the wheels in or away from each other. when you adjust the sleeve (draglink) you are adjusting the wheels both in the same direction. only way to adjust the toe is by turning the sleeve on the tie rod(down by teh driver wheel)
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I said somebody was going to reply like this, you win, sorry but you're wrong. Next time it's up on an alignment machine have the tech move the drag link adjuster and watch the toe, it changes.

If you look closely at the geometry of the inverted-Y steering you might even be able to come back and tell me why that is!
 
my question is HOW it changes the toe... thats like saying everytime you turn the steering wheel your toe changes because the draglink turns the wheels it may give the illusion that it changes the toe, but in reality i can only see it turning both wheels at the same time.
 
Well everybody knows when you lift an XJ it toes in, right?
When the drag link is adjusted it moves the pitman arm side to side relative to the tires. This also changes the angle of the drag link slightly and as the angle changes it lifts up or down on the inner end of the tie rod going to the left knuckle. Much like lift height changes toe but more subtle, it takes a lot of drag link sleeve turning to take toe out of spec.

But if you're one of those guys that has to have the alignment dead nuts perfect, and you turn the drag link sleeve a couple of times, it's not perfect any more.
 
i understand during the initial lift im just trying to visualize how by making one piece longer.... the only way i can describe it is like a 3 leg'd jack stand. when you lift up the centering ring the legs fold up causing "toe in" . but in the case of making the drag link longer i can only see it pushing/pulling the tires left or right at the same degree.

when i get my track bar hopefully before the weekend i'll check everything for centering.

to answer radioshacks question i have only the part time 4hi/4lo so im guessing it will be an 1/8" toe in. thanks for the info
 
JJacobs said:
I said somebody was going to reply like this, you win, sorry but you're wrong. Next time it's up on an alignment machine have the tech move the drag link adjuster and watch the toe, it changes.

If you look closely at the geometry of the inverted-Y steering you might even be able to come back and tell me why that is!
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yes....as the drag link pulls it it lifts and also pull IN the diver side as well cuz now the tie rod has to go at a bit more or an angle...so if you have two points and they are being pulled IN by a lift in the center...my guess is they arent pointing the same as they were before....


is it enought to complain about..no...your talking points of a degree...but the fact is, yes....it does change it...

this is science not opinion ...science says you are wrong...minutely, but still wrong....but if youd like to do the math to show that all these thousands of years f research and all are wrong, please, fire it up
 
Yeah, it's usually fine to make small adjustments with it. If you have to move it a quarter turn (of the steering wheel) then you should recheck toe when you're done and make sure nothing else bent to get it that far out of whack.
 
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