Socialist Playbook-this isn't about politics, it's about overthrowing the USA.

If imprisoning people, torturing them and executing them because they disagree with the government’s policies isn’t a barbaric form of brainwashing, care to provide another definition?

I'd like to see you say again how great the early DEMOCRATIC presidents were, using this arguement, to a Native American

I would also like video proof
 
if your reading comprehension was half as good as your ability to summarize other countrys beliefs you would understand what I wrote
 
I was mocking you.....sorry if you missed that.

Odd thing about communist dictators, they imprison, torture, mutilate and murder folks who attempt to produce movies about how they imprison, torture, mutilate and murder those who don't agree with them...... kind of takes the incentive out of speaking out against them, or the pursuit of a career in independent film.
 
I'd like to see you say again how great the early DEMOCRATIC presidents were, using this arguement, to a Native American

How about how the way the Mormons treated the Native Americans?
 
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I disagree. The right vs wrong of it IS the point.

Tolerance of the actions of the leaders of Communist China are viewed as acceptance. Biden didn’t have to make it a point to praise Zhu De, he could have said nothing about him and still shown respect of the culture. Those who were in agreement with Mao’s policies though he was great and did wonderful things for the country. No news flash there.

Praising Zhu De and Mao only shows acceptance for their establishment of the Communist Party and all of the collateral effects of their actions. It also shows the people of China the US leaders are willing to turn their head to the atrocities that are perpetrated against the Chinese people.

Mao Zedong, the first CCP leader of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), put it bluntly by saying, “What can Emperor Qin Shihuang brag about? He only killed 460 Confucian scholars, but we killed 46,000 intellectuals. There are people who accuse us of practicing dictatorship like Emperor Qin Shihuang and we admit it all. It fits the reality. It is a pity that they did not give us enough credit, so we need to add to it.”

If imprisoning people, torturing them and executing them because they disagree with the government’s policies isn’t a barbaric form of brainwashing, care to provide another definition?

Moa was a great guy, in fact, he killed more people than Stalin and Hiltler combined. Greatest killer in the 20th Century. I call that evil, not bad policy.

Currently, the US Government is beholden to China because of our indebtedness and shows a lack of integrity in upholding the US Constitution, Biden’s “diplomatic” actions are proof. Our Founding Fathers warned of this, but these warnings have gone unheeded.


You should stick to quoting the Rasmussen reports :sure:
 
How about the way you attempt to change the subject, yet again?

Just pointing out that *everyone* has skeletons in the closet.
 
Just pointing out that *everyone* has skeletons in the closet.

Sure, if we pull honesty off the table, that's exactly what you were doing.

I actually appears more like you are trying to make the case that because early leaders of our country made unwise decisions and trampled on the God-given rights and freedoms of our fellow men, that we should quietly sit by and allow the same things or worse to take place in our modern day?
 
Sure, if we pull honesty off the table, that's exactly what you were doing.

It sounds like you are trying to make the case that because early leaders of our country made unwise decisions and trampled on the God-given rights and freedoms of our fellow men, that we should quietly sit by and allow the same things or worse to take place in our modern day?

You picked up on that? :laugh: But isn't that what you are doing with Mao? You don't think the Chinese are trying to forget the bad parts past as well?
 
You picked up on that? :laugh: But isn't that what you are doing with Mao? You don't think the Chinese are trying to forget the bad parts past as well?


http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

Proof is in their actions and deeds. Denouncing Mao's actions and deeds, never to repeat them. China has improved since Mao was in power, but the current regime mirrors many of his deeds.


So Biden goes to China and praises those who perpetrated these crimes against humanity, just this month?

Obama Mfg. Czar Ron Bloom “We kind of agree with Mao that power comes largely from the barrel of a gun.”

WH Communications Dir. Anita Dunn told a graduating HS student body that Mao and Mother Theresa were two of her "favorite political philosophers".


“The madness of liberalism is that it always shifts the blame away from the perpetrators [of evil] to America. We are the only nation that has this developed sense of self-hatred, an irrational self-loathing that borders on the mentally insane.”
- Ellis Washington

:patriot:
 
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Jeff, how many weeks a year do you spend outside the U.S.?
 
In the debate about raising the debt ceiling, the reality is often lost that the top 10 percent of income earners—those making more than $113,799 in 2008 (the latest year available from the IRS)—already pay 69.9 percent of the income taxes. The same top 10 percent, however, earn only 45.8 percent of the income.

The IRS also reports that in 2008, the top 25 percent of income earners—those earning $67,280 or more—pay 86.34 percent of the income taxes, yet earn only 67.38 percent of all income in the U.S.


Earlier this summer, businessman Steve Wynn said that the Obama Administration has been “the greatest wet blanket to business and progress and job creation in my lifetime.”

And when Investors Business Daily asked Home Depot co-founder Bernie Marcus, “What’s the single biggest impediment to job growth today?” he replied, “The U.S. government.” Business owners–those men and women who create jobs in America–know that the Obama Administration is the root cause of the stalled economy.

Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC)-"The torrential flood of costly and burdensome regulations from this administration has created a climate of uncertainty among small business construction contractors," said 2011 ABC National Chairman Michael J. Uremovich, president of Great Lakes Energy Consultants, LLC, Manhattan, Ill.

"Business owners are buried in government red tape that erodes their bottom line and creates an uncertain future – hardly the formula needed to stimulate economic growth and create jobs."


Gonna be interesting to hear what Obama has to say tonight.....
 
Gonna be interesting to hear what Obama has to say tonight.....


:scared:.He will tell everybody it is great and his plan is working:twak:. You will say yes it is and go about your way and enjoy life.These are not the humans you are looking for.

Sorry was watching star wars again.
 
I actually appears more like you are trying to make the case that because early leaders of our country made unwise decisions and trampled on the God-given rights and freedoms of our fellow men, that we should quietly sit by and allow the same things or worse to take place in our modern day?


When we talk about how things should be, we tend to give more credibility to how thing are, to prior choices made than current alternatives.

I think it's human nature.




In the debate about raising the debt ceiling, the reality is often lost that the top 10 percent of income earners—those making more than $113,799 in 2008 (the latest year available from the IRS)—already pay 69.9 percent of the income taxes. The same top 10 percent, however, earn only 45.8 percent of the income.

The IRS also reports that in 2008, the top 25 percent of income earners—those earning $67,280 or more—pay 86.34 percent of the income taxes, yet earn only 67.38 percent of all income in the U.S.



You seem to be trying to make the case that the "wealthy" already pay their "fair share". But your points above are founded on an assumption that an income tax is the most fair.

Yet, many argue that a better proxy for determining someone's fair share of the tax burden is wealth, not income.

The "top 25%" you talk about hold somewhere in the 90-92% of the wealth, but are only paying some 86% of the national burden.

So, in that regard, one could argue that they are not quite paying their fair share...




What do you think... what's more fair... divying up the national burden by income or by wealth?

Most people immediatly will say income simply because that is how we've always done it... because it's the way things are now.




Regardless.... they keep raising that debt ceiling and printing money to pay it... we're all fu*&ed...
 
When we talk about how things should be, we tend to give more credibility to how thing are, to prior choices made than current alternatives.

I think it's human nature.








You seem to be trying to make the case that the "wealthy" already pay their "fair share". But your points above are founded on an assumption that an income tax is the most fair.




Yet, many argue that a better proxy for determining someone's fair share of the tax burden is wealth, not income.

The "top 25%" you talk about hold somewhere in the 90-92% of the wealth, but are only paying some 86% of the national burden.

So, in that regard, one could argue that they are not quite paying their fair share...




What do you think... what's more fair... divying up the national burden by income or by wealth?

Most people immediatly will say income simply because that is how we've always done it... because it's the way things are now.




Regardless.... they keep raising that debt ceiling and printing money to pay it... we're all fu*&ed...

The 2010 U.S. tax code is 71,684 pages in length, time for a complete overhaul.

I say the U.S. Citizens need to demand the implementation of a flat tax, where all wage earners pay the same percentage of their income. This takes the whole "who's paying their fair share of taxes" question off the table.


"I can make a firm pledge, "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

Obama's 21 new or increased taxes

http://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-obama-tax-hikes-a6433
 
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