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TmacisN11

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I am trying to find d ring shackles for my arb front bumper, but cant find a offroad shop around tigard/portland area that has them. I know I can just buy online but it would be better to be able to just pick them up so I will make sure it will arrive before the browns camp run. Anyone know?
 
they jack up the price 75%. Try a tractor shop, hardware store, or trailer place. I bought 6 yesterday. The John Deere store had the best prices.
 
mud1059 said:
they jack up the price 75%. Try a tractor shop, hardware store, or trailer place. I bought 6 yesterday. The John Deere store had the best prices.
Ditto that....try your local hardware store.

The last ones I bought were $8 for 5/8", $12 for 3/4"; both prices are about 1/2 of what Quadratec charges.
 
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Rev Den said:
FYI

I would not use the ARB tabs for recovery, they are not really all that strong.

I would use a strap around one of the tubes first.

JMHO

Rev

To be honest I don't think I have ever looked at the ARB bumper up close on a XJ. Not sure I know anyone with one thinking about it.

However, in my experience the tabs on the ARB bumper are fine as long as you are pulling pretty close to strait. I would not trust them at a significant angle but I have seen WAY TOO many of the tubes bent to trust them. You could weld or bolt some new ones one and support them from the back also.

I agree. Tractor, trailer, Semi Truck, or Harware stores are going to have what you need at much better prices.
Michael
 
I picked mine up from a Feed store and places such as Tacoma Screw.

Big hardware stores were a waste of time.
 
Also make sure to check the strength rating on them. I use 3 tons plus.

Also get USA shackles and not those weak Chinese ones
 
XJourney said:
Also make sure to check the strength rating on them. I use 3 tons plus.

Also get USA shackles and not those weak Chinese ones

Have you broken a lot of Chinese shackles?
 
John90XJ said:
Have you broken a lot of Chinese shackles?


No but I have broke a grade 80 lifting chain at work. Using a 10 ton frame pulling tower with a snatch block. For you math genius's that is 20 ton = 40,000 psi. That will scare you into using only the best, especially when your life can depend on it. :eek:

Here is a pic of two shackle rated the same (ton WLL). Can you guess which one is made from the better alloy?

jeep001.jpg


But hey this is just what my experiences have taught me. I just wanted him to be informed.
 
XJourney said:
No but I have broke a grade 80 lifting chain at work. Using a 10 ton frame pulling tower with a snatch block. For you math genius's that is 20 ton = 40,000 psi. That will scare you into using only the best, especially when your life can depend on it. :eek:

Here is a pic of two shackle rated the same (ton WLL). Can you guess which one is made from the better alloy?

jeep001.jpg


But hey this is just what my experiences have taught me. I just wanted him to be informed.
The 1 on the right cause it`s made from US Scrap metal:gee: and we need to support a village in China.
 
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That's good to know for the next time I have a 20 ton recovery using chain.

I think for what we do...either shackle is likely acceptable. I'm still not convinced that Chinese = Bad.

If you use common sense and don't remain in the flight path of your recovery gear, you should be fine with whatever you bring to the party.
 
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John90XJ said:
That's good to know for the next time I have a 20 ton recovery using chain.

I think for what we do...either shackle is likely acceptable. I'm still not convinced that Chinese = Bad.

If you use common sense and don't remain in the flight path of your recovery gear, you should be fine with whatever you bring to the party.

x2 :D
 
For what it is worth, In my opinion most people have NO idea what they are looking at when it comes to chain or cable quality, strength, and most of the related items (hooks, shackles, etc). This is also one of the most important accesories for a 4x4 as far as safety goes!! The last thing anyone needs is something to break either during the recovery of a vehicle or holding a vehicle down to a trailer (both can be Catastrophic situations).

I usually try to use a safety factor of 2 when dealing with these products. So if my expected load is a max of 10K, I use a 20K chain, shackles, etc.

I also use something to dampen the energy release if something should break.

Michael
 
XJourney said:
No but I have broke a grade 80 lifting chain at work. Using a 10 ton frame pulling tower with a snatch block. For you math genius's that is 20 ton = 40,000 psi. That will scare you into using only the best, especially when your life can depend on it. :eek:

X2 In college I had a 2 ton chain hoist snap the chain while it was only loaded to 75% of rated capacity. The chain recoiled and exploded the end of my finger, while dropping a 3000 lb plaster mold next to me. Messy and scary. Don't underestimate the amount of energy stored in in a winch line or tow strap under load. :lecture:

No, Ryan, it wasn't in Alaska :D

-i
 
John90XJ said:
That's good to know for the next time I have a 20 ton recovery using chain.

I think for what we do...either shackle is likely acceptable. I'm still not convinced that Chinese = Bad.

If you use common sense and don't remain in the flight path of your recovery gear, you should be fine with whatever you bring to the party.

You laugh but if every wheeler treated every recovery situation like it was a 20 ton recovery, there would be lot few death/injuries out there. Last thing our sports image needs is a death/injury on the 5 o'clock news.

And I have nothing against Chinese products When I have enough cash I plan on getting a T-Maxx winch. I am not a WARN or die kinda guy, you know who you are. ;)

This sport isn't cheap, so why are you guys playing with poor quality products to save a a couple dollars. It isn't like the difference of a WARN and a T-Maxx, which is several HUNDRED dollars more.

Either way he should go for a couple 7+ton shackle, with a 10+ton if he has a winch and snatch block.

Of course everything I said is MY personal opinion take from it what you will.
 
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