setup help??

harwood39

NAXJA Forum User
Location
Fargo, ND
Ok guys, get me on the right track here, i keep wanting to waste my money on stupid shit like on board air and electronics when i dont even have tires or lockers or even skids... What are the absolute must haves for wheeling. I mean true wheeling not jut some trails. Where we ride it is pretty nasty(not rocky but steep off hamber stuff) and lots of trees... Im on tight budget too, so cheaper is better(not like cheap brands, but not expensive air lockers either)... a lot of DIY stuff will help a lot too.
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alright here is what i got so far, rear bumper, 6 in lift(budget boost gone mad), 3 fire extinguishers(bad luck follows our group around), extra lighting, hi-lift, tools, recovery points(rear d-rings and front 2 inch hitches)

here is a link of my project build so far... http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=919071

just need more advice... we get hung up all the time, and rolled 3 rigs in 2 trips last month... havent broughten mine out due to ignition problems that i just fixed in time for my 4 month old fuel pump to fail... thank god for lifetime warranties

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budget it pretty low, thats why i ask for the bare minimum for must haves. Once summer hits i will be able to afford more, just stuck in a part time job till i finish school, but wanna get some more done before they start going out again.


As for tire size i wold like to keep it conservative with 32 or 33. I trimmed the front fenders, folded the rear fenders, and am trimming and folding the rear quarters over the next month since that will only cost me welding wire. I have a CB, pulled the air bags(system shorted and was causing my guages to drop out), have dual bats, im doing a home made snorkel(lost a rig in a water hole last summer and just want the insurance there), and i have tons of chain, tow straps(with and without hooks).


Mostly i want advise on vehicle prep for the bare minimums for Midwest wheeling and whatnot.

Oh, and as far as rocker guards go, im iffy on spending the money as i plan on doing the complete replacement next summer due to it being a lot stronger and i wouldnt loose ground clearance(where we wheel every inch counts)

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The fist thing i obviously need is tires, i get that, but im thinking skids are next, some control arms, and RE hack and tap. if i could find a set of some nice 35's i would be really happy. since it cleared 33 in super swampers over the summer when i borrowed a set from a buddy. I like to climb stuff and clear obsticals. I like the trail type stuff we do. I drove a wrangler a few times this summer out there broke a lot on that. his setup was 4 in lift, 33 swampers, rock sliders, poison spyder stinger, and blue torch comp cut 1/4 armor. we broke both rear shock mounts when we came down hard cause he had it sitting on the stinger. pics of some of the wheeling is on my site. www.harwoodmfg.com

im waiting on bumpers and other misc for now as i am trying to work out a deal on purchasing a product line for cherokees to start remanufacturing.

i will also get some vids of the type of wheeling we do to help you guys.

sorry for it being a little choppy, i just put together posts from the other thread and figure you guys could help me out more since this is the midwest chapter and thats where i wheel...
 
1. Skids.
2. Rockers (sell them when you build your replacements to recoup that $).
3. Tires.
4. Lockers.
5. Control arms if necessary.
6. Longer (YJ) slip yoke or SYE if you are having vibes or problems with it pulling out.
 
TellicoReadyXJ said:
1. Skids.
2. Rockers (sell them when you build your replacements to recoup that $).
3. Tires.
4. Lockers.
5. Control arms if necessary.
6. Longer (YJ) slip yoke or SYE if you are having vibes or problems with it pulling out.

Yup.
I have no idea what makes ND trails tougher than anything else I've run.
If you were wheeling in WI, IL, or Indiana, this is essentually the list I'd go with.

I did see from the pix you are not running swaybar disconnects. No not just unbolt them stock ones and let them drag, as they will hang on something and wrap around the axle. I see you have a 8.25" rear. Does it have a limited slip? If so, put your locker up front. Also you can gain some ground clearance by shaving off that lip on the bottom.

Since you are running the external slip yoke, the YJ yoke is not any longer than the stock XJ yoke, so if your going to do a SYE, just Hack N Tap on the output shaft and see if you can use a front DS in the rear with an adapter.

Your rockers are in nice shape. Make rock rails a priority before you wheel it.

Ron
 
ok, my plan was do do the hack and tap with a front driveshaft. no my rear isnt lsd.... i think i will make some rock rails this week... i designed some to build but havent gotten around to it.
 
Aussie for the front. You are limited to either a Powertrax or a Loc-rite for the 8.25. Or you could always Lincoln lock it :D
 
anyone got measurments including angles for skids?? Gas tank, transfer, engine. i wanna make my own and save a ton of money. I can get 3/16'' steel sheets for free. Pics and drawings would be awesome also!!
 
you can copy the warn T-case skid out of 3/1`6 for next to nothing, it's just a plate with the front edge bent up. It bolts to the front of the stock trans x-member with 3 self tappers, and a carriage bolt though in the middle, with three more sellf tappers to the uniframe rail.
Mine has held up, and it get's abused a lot because of my breakover.

given any thought to gears?
Going to 33's is gonna suck with stock 3.55's. Go as low as you can in the 8.25, what is that, 4.56?
 
TellicoReadyXJ said:
I'd go 4.88. You won't regret it.
he has the 8.25 so he cant

holden heres what you need and in this order

1 SYE (it will get rid of vibes)
2 Rock Rails (you will damage your jeep without them)
3 Skids (start with Tcase, and then the gas tank and then the front check Hazers or 7th ave for them)
4 Control Arms
5 Gears
6 Tires
7 Lockers
 
harwood39 said:
i was thinkin of going with 4.10's honestly

33's and 4.10's suck. That is what I run........daily.

If the checkbook would allow it, I'd throw in 4.88's in a heartbeat.

Hale
 
harwood39 said:
how good are the factory skids??? Would it be worth it to pick some up and reinforce them??
the front skid is good and soild, the gas tank is ok (for you it will be fine) and the transfer case is the one you will want to make beefier, or buy one
 
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