Roxolid Trail Armor?

[Wdnuwndr]

Saw these on ebay, and in another thread on a Jeep forum, although I don't remember exactly where. It looks (and reads) like the mounts and tabs are just welded to the tube. Their winch bumper looks downright janky.

Is there a different way to weld them to make stronger?
Do you mean those couldnt be used for recovery because of way they are welded?

Looking for new bumpers here at reasonable cost & just trying to understand what to look for.

 

[chedisme]

I have there old style front bumper. Its great. Iv creamed a dear with it at about 50mph and even hit a tree doing about 10(Im not proud of the tree incident). ive got a 9.5k winch on it and puled my self out of a lot of muddy messes. mine mount as far back so that it uses all the steering box mounts. idk about there rear bumpers, dont look like they tie in at all, but the front is a solid buy.

 

[jakeWI]

They look to simple and weak. If you are looking for that style and function why not go JCR or something?

 

[fasteddieyj]

I'm no expert, but there is no way I'd want to do a side pull with that rear bumper.
As a general horror story about dealing with "cheaper" bumpers: I bought a rear bumper/tire carrier for my old Rubi from a company that I had never heard of because of the price. When it showed up I immediately wanted to send it back. It was obviously welded using flux core wire and none of the slag was removed. Just looked really crappy. Plus the mounts were built out of 2" angle iron. All of a sudden I couldn't get a hold of the company to see about a return. In the end I spent $400 on a welder and had to teach myself to weld in order to build new mounts so that I felt safe installing it and not killing someone.
I don't know the guys that own Roxolid, and maybe they make a great product, but don't let price be the main reason you buy something.

 

[FleX Jay]

Just wanted to let anyone interested know that Roxolid Trail Armor now has their swing out tire carriers ready and for sale. There are some pictures on the website and a video of the product testing on Youtube. (search for roxolid)

 

[RCP Phx]

Just wanted to let anyone interested know that Roxolid Trail Armor now has their swing out tire carriers ready and for sale. There are some pictures on the website and a video of the product testing on Youtube. (search for roxolid)

Those mounts are not going to be strong enough for recovery or a spare tire(unless its a 185/65/13)!

 

[ncm2005]

I've had the tire carrier installed for about 4 months now and love it. It's taken some rock rash, hard pulls, been a jacking point and I've towed with it, works great. Plus it looks good (great for the money) I get tons of compliments. Sure it could be prettier, but it would cost more. Sure it could tie in all the original hitch mounting points, but why? If my XJ was stuck so bad that a 9.5k winch was failing on a rear pull, I would be smart enough to look for alternate ways, not just looking for a 12k bumper remover. Now I do believe the right jenius (yes with a J) could pull this bumper off with: poor pulling procedures, overdose of mountain dew, not installed correctly etc....
By the way the owner of Roxolid is a pretty nice guy, and great at customer service.

 

[vegas_baja]

If you're looking for good quality without breaking the bank, detours, jcr or aj's..

http://www.detoursusa.com/

 

[GoSlowGetStuck]

I've had the tire carrier installed for about 4 months now and love it. It's taken some rock rash, hard pulls, been a jacking point and I've towed with it, works great. Plus it looks good (great for the money) I get tons of compliments. Sure it could be prettier, but it would cost more. Sure it could tie in all the original hitch mounting points, but why? If my XJ was stuck so bad that a 9.5k winch was failing on a rear pull, I would be smart enough to look for alternate ways, not just looking for a 12k bumper remover. Now I do believe the right jenius (yes with a J) could pull this bumper off with: poor pulling procedures, overdose of mountain dew, not installed correctly etc....
By the way the owner of Roxolid is a pretty nice guy, and great at customer service.

It's good to hear some real life experience from someone. People can criticize how it looks, how many bolts it uses, how poorly it attaches, alignment of the planets, etc. all day, but actually hearing a real life use story goes a longer way IMO. I do remember the earlier design of these bumpers when the front only had 6 bolts and the rear only had the 8 bolts in tension, and it looks like the designs have been modified to attach things a little more securely. I'm looking at ditching in my front receiver and winch mount and getting a legitimate bumper, and after looking at material cost and plasma cost, even if I do the welding myself I'm going to spend about as much as the Crawler and end up with a worse product. So I will probably be getting the front Crawler soon, and I'll let everyone know how well it works for me.

Can't get any rear bumper since my OEM mounting bolts are rusted, stripped, and generally fubar :doh:

 

[ncm2005]

I should mention- he sent his wife to my house to drop off a cotter pin and the bearing cap for the tire carrier next day (he forgot to put in bag) so I could still make my wheeling trip to Harlan Co KY with a complete bumper. So customer service is great.

As for strength, I carried my 31" spare on a 15x7 steelie, 48" cast hi lift, my clamp on bike rack with 2 mountain bikes through level 3 trails in Harlan dragging my bike tires and bumper a couple of times since I was loaded with camping gear too. No problems at all. I'm moving to 33" tires soon and I do not think the extra weight will be a problem. After all thats what the owner of Roxolid is running or maybe he is on 35" I cant remember for sure.

Oh yeah before anyone asks I was only on level 3 trails to get to the campsite so I could get unloaded....:laugh:

Everyone here knows what they are talking about so you should listen to them. Sometimes they are just bias to what they have or what someone else has convinced them they need though. Overall they are trying to help, Lord knows they have helped me. Good luck with your bumper...

 

[mizedog]

GoSlowGetStuck sent me an email and let me know that he posted this thread. You haven't seen me on here because I don't want be the guy trying to push what he's sellin down someone's throat. I am glad that you are interested in our products. I started Roxolid Trail Armor because I'm an average guy who doesn't have a fortune to spend on his rig. I thing everyone should be able to put a bumper on the front and back of his rig and not have to loose an arm or leg in the process. If you're looking for a bumper that follows every body contour and has fancy logos engraved, hopefully your rich. If you want a product that will fend off trees and rocks, not break the bank, and last for years to come, then we've got a solution for you. All of our products are tested on the trail. They are quality products and you won't be dissapointed.

Bravo, sir! :lecture:Thanks for keeping things affordable and being let your designe evolve for strength, etc. I can't see spending $800-1100 on a rear bumper/tire carries when I know the steel is worth less than $150. As for the looks, yeah, it's not the prettiest. Yeah, it sticks out a little too far rearward. Yeah, it would be nice to have some side returns to meet with the body. But, it's not $1100 either and it's simple enough to be modified by the end user.

No to address the rear overhand issue...

 

[94xjstud]

Pretty nice bumper for the price, but I would like to have the rear mounts go into the frame rails and mount them there too. If it is just the 4 stock bolts I wouldn't trust it for a hard tug.

 

[hisnameisralf]

does anyone know if you can run the rear bumper tire carrier with a stock tow hitch? I would rather pull from my tow hitch than just the rear bumper if it is only connected with 8 bolts...

 

[XJ=Fun]

Ees so ugly, to each their own...

 

[ncm2005]

hisname

It mounts with 12 or 14 bolts (can't remember now). You could easily modify the hitch and or bumper to work together. I pulled my hitch because I was looking for ground clearance. I bought a parts XJ not long ago and used this bumper to tow the flat bed it was on, I had way too much tongue weight and it did fine. I shouldn't have done it honestly with the way the trailer was loaded (I've got pics somewhere if you want), even with the factory hitch. So I have even more faith now.

You have a valid concern though if considering sway, I would think that the added leverage of placing the hitching point so far back compared to the factory hitch could create a problem. I do tow a 8' pickup bed/ utility trailer often with no problem. That trailer has 31" mudders and I hardly notice sway.