ROM thoughts and questions

[lwbtex]

Ill start off by saying no im not happy about the location change but am still going to try and make it anyways. Ive been to two of the ROM's so far and have met several of our chapter members and look forward to riding with them again.

5 days before the event and the location changes? Are you kidding me? If it was a couple weeks or more thats one thing but less than a week is ridiculous.

Now for the weather. Marble falls has a chance of rain Wed., Thurs., Fri. where Gilmer has a chance of rain only Fri. and Sat. so how does that make Hidden Falls a better option?

On to turnout. Correct me if im wrong but wasnt last years ROM at Hidden Falls the worst turnout yet?

Deftwillp made a comment about selling his bumper to Dozer but says Dozer wont be going anymore. Wasnt Dozer the only person to pre-register other than the BOD members? So please tell me this change was agreed upon by someone other than the BOD members.

Guess that about covers it for now.

 

[magimerlin]

Roger also pre registered and I talked to Dozer about it as well even though he isn't able to go any longer. Gilmer is also under not one but two flood watches still. With the water over 10 feet over there flood stage.

Yup a week to go and the change... Trust me it wasn't a light decision. But after being at Gilmer more then once in the pouring rain and did I mention it was so cold and miserable for everyone last time the event was there it even snowed.

We are trying to have good time and well when it rains at Gilmer it is not a good time. Ask those that where there two years ago.

We knew this was going to piss a few people off and I am sorry for that. With the people that say they "might" be able to make it we where more concerned about the ones that made a commitment to he there. As sad as that sounds it's the truth.

To all that are still going to try to go we thank thank you and to those that can not make it we are sorry.

 

[lwbtex]

Roger also pre registered and I talked to Dozer about it as well even though he isn't able to go any longer. Gilmer is also under not one but two flood watches still. With the water over 10 feet over there flood stage. Let me get this right, all the members that were asked about the change live in the general Austin vicinity? Sounds like that had more to do with the change of venue than anything. The flooding is a river that is over flood stage and has nothing at all to do with Barnwell. So once again it will be the little Austin group that complains about not having anybody to wheel with. THIS IS WHY!!!!

Yup a week to go and the change... Trust me it wasn't a light decision. But after being at Gilmer more then once in the pouring rain and did I mention it was so cold and miserable for everyone last time the event was there it even snowed. I was there Jay and guess what I was there the year before that in the rain and mud also. Yes its more fun when its dry but the event was planned months out for Barnwell so stick with it. And if you have to change the location you dont move it almost 300 miles away. Yes our chapter is HUGE but damn thats ridiculous. Heck the location was voted on by the chapter in its entirety. The weather should have been considered before the location was chosen.

We are trying to have good time and well when it rains at Gilmer it is not a good time. Ask those that where there two years ago. Once again I was there and yeah the weather got nasty and ruined the event but alot of the problem was the way the event was run. Dont take that as a knock against Kurt or Justin.

We knew this was going to piss a few people off and I am sorry for that. With the people that say they "might" be able to make it we where more concerned about the ones that made a commitment to he there. As sad as that sounds it's the truth. The purpose of a chapter wide event is to try and cater to as many people as possible and changing the location at the last minute does the exact opposite. For instance, I have to come up with another $100-150 just for gas in less than a week to be able to make it down. Take that as an example not an excuse or simple complaint. And as for the argument that you checked with the members that pre-registered is total BS. Those arent the only members that count. Ive been saying from the beginning that I would be there but pay at the event and have been active in the threads about ROM. Heck Ive even brought the threads back up to make sure everyone has the most info they can get when the BOD members didnt.

To all that are still going to try to go we thank thank you and to those that can not make it we are sorry.

As yall can tell by now Im quite pissed about this happening. I wouldnt have said a word if the event had been planned for Hidden Falls from the beginning as I would have just planned for it. Notice my post count and youll see I hardly post unless I feel the need to. I am active in the club participating in events and trying to meet the members though. Unfortunately its stuff like this that has led to many a chapter member being run off or just giving up on the chapter I believe. I sure hope for the chapters sake that yall correct this so that we dont lose any more of the very few members we do have. Im not attacking anyone so please dont take it that way. But I would love to hear other members views on this issue.

 

[ExTankerGuy]

Wow. Changing the location less than a week out. Really? Really!!?? I just attended my first Winterfest this year. We had rain, wind, lightning, and tornados in the forecast. Guess what? The BOD didn't change the location! (and we still had a huge turnout!) I would think that if you live near Marble Falls, you would want to go somewhere different.



BTW, Gilmer looks to be close to the center of the RRC. Maybe not exactly, but close. And if you want a place that's not effected too much by the rain, try Clayton Oklahoma or Hot Springs Arkansas. They have more rocks than dirt.

 

[FlexdXJ]

I just attended my first Winterfest this year. We had rain, wind, lightning, and tornados in the forecast. Guess what? .

Don't forget about this stuff:

 

[Exxon Valdez Jeep]

You drive a jeep and you're scared of a little rain and mud? :bawl:

The winterfest photos looked like a kickass time btw

 

[ChiXJeff]

WinterFest on Saturday was actually enjoyable, with the notable issue that it was a bit chilly.

I know absolutely nothing about Gilmer, and what sort of risks floods actually entail. The Badland ORP is a converted quarry, so drainage isn't all that bad, and the risk of a full-on flood-out is pretty slim. Personally, I've got no problem with a change of venue if it looks like nothing will be runnable due to flooding.

 

[ExTankerGuy]

Barnwell MOUNTAIN Recreation Area. It's on top of a hill!

 

[ChiXJeff]

Oops, wrong location reference.

 

[lwbtex]

Thanks for posting yall. COME ON RRC FOLKS!! There are more people from other chapters commenting than there are RRC members.

 

[magimerlin]

OK here it is everyone might as well report this thread and myself now as this may get nasty in the end of all my comments.........My post in this section and in the following post will be green These comments are not meant as any type of attack towards any of the posters. These are just my comments blunt and to the point in general to the comments said....

Originally Posted by magimerlin
Roger also pre registered and I talked to Dozer about it as well even though he isn't able to go any longer. Gilmer is also under not one but two flood watches still. With the water over 10 feet over there flood stage. Let me get this right, all the members that were asked about the change live in the general Austin vicinity? Sounds like that had more to do with the change of venue than anything. The flooding is a river that is over flood stage and has nothing at all to do with Barnwell. So once again it will be the little Austin group that complains about not having anybody to wheel with. THIS IS WHY!!!!

Yes all the members that where talked to where in the Austin area. Know why? cause they actually frikking pre paid. So they are the ones committed to going. Just saying you are going tells us nothing. I have watched over the years as sooo many have said that and never do. If ANY ONE else in ANY AREA pre paid as well I would have called them as well. Dozer pre paid and he is at Fort Polk, La. I called him... Is he in the Austin area? Not the last time I checked my map....So the change of place had Nothing to do with where people lived. As to the "little Austin group" as you call us in this area we that can and do wheel in between our busy lives we do not complain. It always seems to be the ones that can not make it that first complain no matter where they are physically. So NO THIS ISN'T WHY as you seem to think.




Yup a week to go and the change... Trust me it wasn't a light decision. But after being at Gilmer more then once in the pouring rain and did I mention it was so cold and miserable for everyone last time the event was there it even snowed.I was there Jay and guess what I was there the year before that in the rain and mud also. Yes its more fun when its dry but the event was planned months out for Barnwell so stick with it. And if you have to change the location you dont move it almost 300 miles away. Yes our chapter is HUGE but damn thats ridiculous. Heck the location was voted on by the chapter in its entirety. The weather should have been considered before the location was chosen.

I know you where there....We fixed your stuff if I remember right. As well as others. OK so on your comment about not moving it 300 miles away......you talking from you or Gilmer?? "Ridiculous" or not that is what was agreed upon by the members that actually already paid and have made the commitment. Unless someone has a fortune tell in there frigging pocket how are we suppose to now the weather 2-3 months out. Can any of you do it, I know we as the BoD can not.

We are trying to have good time and well when it rains at Gilmer it is not a good time. Ask those that where there two years ago. Once again I was there and yeah the weather got nasty and ruined the event but alot of the problem was the way the event was run. Dont take that as a knock against Kurt or Justin.

You state right in your own response that the weather got nasty and ruined the vent. Yes other things happened to.

We knew this was going to piss a few people off and I am sorry for that. With the people that say they "might" be able to make it we where more concerned about the ones that made a commitment to he there. As sad as that sounds it's the truth. The purpose of a chapter wide event is to try and cater to as many people as possible and changing the location at the last minute does the exact opposite. For instance, I have to come up with another $100-150 just for gas in less than a week to be able to make it down. Take that as an example not an excuse or simple complaint. And as for the argument that you checked with the members that pre-registered is total BS. Those arent the only members that count. Ive been saying from the beginning that I would be there but pay at the event and have been active in the threads about ROM. Heck Ive even brought the threads back up to make sure everyone has the most info they can get when the BOD members didnt.

To get this chapter to do any thing together is like pulling teeth. We have to many kids and or adults that never left high school and like the drama and do not know what a real life is. Changing the location to benefit those that paid and committed themselves is in my eyes and theirs and the president(yes I pm'ed him before actually doing this) is more beneficial. It pisses some of and it makes some happy. The ones that committed are happy the ones that just say they will be there (whether they actually are sincere or something comes up) will of course be unhappy. About you bringing the post back up.. TY but that info that was added was really not needed till later if not at all. We the Bod add things when needed not necessarily when others feel it is needed. We do this for a reason.



To all that are still going to try to go we thank thank you and to those that can not make it we are sorry.



As yall can tell by now Im quite pissed about this happening. I wouldnt have said a word if the event had been planned for Hidden Falls from the beginning as I would have just planned for it. Notice my post count and youll see I hardly post unless I feel the need to. I am active in the club participating in events and trying to meet the members though. Unfortunately its stuff like this that has led to many a chapter member being run off or just giving up on the chapter I believe. I sure hope for the chapters sake that yall correct this so that we dont lose any more of the very few members we do have. Im not attacking anyone so please dont take it that way. But I would love to hear other members views on this issue.


How do you purpose we "FIX" this.... The event is not going back to Gilmer this year.

OK now to the other posts......

 

[rms692]

well said jay:yelclap: but ur just !!!1....

 

[magimerlin]

Wow. Changing the location less than a week out. Really? Really!!?? I just attended my first Winterfest this year. We had rain, wind, lightning, and tornados in the forecast. Guess what? The BOD didn't change the location! (and we still had a huge turnout!) I would think that if you live near Marble Falls, you would want to go somewhere different.



BTW, Gilmer looks to be close to the center of the RRC. Maybe not exactly, but close. And if you want a place that's not effected too much by the rain, try Clayton Oklahoma or Hot Springs Arkansas. They have more rocks than dirt.

YES "Really Really" Congrats on it being successful out there. I don't have to guess you told me....lol "The BOD didn't change the location! (and we still had a huge turnout!)"

We would love to go somewhere different BUT..... Gilmor when it rain/pours/floods is a big red clay pool. The most rocks out at Gilmer is the rock garden and even that is small. Most if not all their trails are dirt and clay mix and when it rains it just collects and its over.

Yes Gilmer is in the centerish.... those places are all well and good but we have issues getting people to drive a few hours let alone 8-10.

 

[magimerlin]

You drive a jeep and you're scared of a little rain and mud? :bawl:

The winterfest photos looked like a kickass time btw

You know we are not afraid of a little cod dam rain and mud. So go take your crying emote and well do something with it..........

 

[magimerlin]

WinterFest on Saturday was actually enjoyable, with the notable issue that it was a bit chilly.

I know absolutely nothing about Gilmer, and what sort of risks floods actually entail. The Badland ORP is a converted quarry, so drainage isn't all that bad, and the risk of a full-on flood-out is pretty slim. Personally, I've got no problem with a change of venue if it looks like nothing will be runnable due to flooding.

I wish Gilmer was "just a bit chilly" last time we had the event there. It was so cold it snowed the last day and most of us in tents packed up to get a motel room. Funniest part was at the fire right befor the raffle.. Picture the a regular size camp fire with 6-7 guys around it shoulder to shoulder to try to get warm. We made a smoke stack for the fire basically. There is no run off area at Gilmer. When it rains its a red clay pool. They might as well install a diving board. That's just in nothing will be runnable if the rain and the flood warnings are still in effect.

 

[magimerlin]

Barnwell MOUNTAIN Recreation Area. It's on top of a hill!

So you only stay at the pavilion? Just because the say its a "Mountain" doesn't make it one. Gilmer is in no way shape or fashion a mountain. It's just a large area with some decent elevation changes.

 

[lwbtex]

Wow these posts are going to get long but oh well.

OK here it is everyone might as well report this thread and myself now as this may get nasty in the end of all my comments.........My post in this section and in the following post will be green These comments are not meant as any type of attack towards any of the posters. These are just my comments blunt and to the point in general to the comments said....

Well youre not going to hurt my feelings and Im personally going to keep my comments and posts as civil as possible.

Originally Posted by magimerlin
Roger also pre registered and I talked to Dozer about it as well even though he isn't able to go any longer. Gilmer is also under not one but two flood watches still. With the water over 10 feet over there flood stage. Let me get this right, all the members that were asked about the change live in the general Austin vicinity? Sounds like that had more to do with the change of venue than anything. The flooding is a river that is over flood stage and has nothing at all to do with Barnwell. So once again it will be the little Austin group that complains about not having anybody to wheel with. THIS IS WHY!!!!

Yes all the members that where talked to where in the Austin area. Know why? cause they actually frikking pre paid. So they are the ones committed to going. Just saying you are going tells us nothing. I have watched over the years as sooo many have said that and never do. If ANY ONE else in ANY AREA pre paid as well I would have called them as well. Dozer pre paid and he is at Fort Polk, La. I called him... Is he in the Austin area? Not the last time I checked my map....So the change of place had Nothing to do with where people lived. As to the "little Austin group" as you call us in this area we that can and do wheel in between our busy lives we do not complain. It always seems to be the ones that can not make it that first complain no matter where they are physically. So NO THIS ISN'T WHY as you seem to think.

Ok so from now on only pre-paying members are the ones that count? If so yall should have made preregistration mandatory. Im sure glad I didnt pre-pay as id be demanding my money back after yall pulled this. So what about those that didnt prepay but have been planning on making the event since it was scheduled? You cant simply forget about those members. And no Dozer is not in the Austin area but the above comment was made after it was already confirmed that he wasnt going so thats not a valid argument. I also never said that IS the reason for the change. Merely made the comment that it sure seems that way. From the outside looking in it sure seems like yall decided that nobody from outside that area was going anyways so why not make it closer to home. Guess why yall dont complain??? Its because yall are the ones making and changing the plans. The rest of us are at yalls mercy for planning. On to the comment that those that cant come are the first to complain, I never said I wasnt going anymore and it appears that im the first to complain. I just want this issue to be brought out and discussed by other members than the BOD.


Yup a week to go and the change... Trust me it wasn't a light decision. But after being at Gilmer more then once in the pouring rain and did I mention it was so cold and miserable for everyone last time the event was there it even snowed.I was there Jay and guess what I was there the year before that in the rain and mud also. Yes its more fun when its dry but the event was planned months out for Barnwell so stick with it. And if you have to change the location you dont move it almost 300 miles away. Yes our chapter is HUGE but damn thats ridiculous. Heck the location was voted on by the chapter in its entirety. The weather should have been considered before the location was chosen.

I know you where there....We fixed your stuff if I remember right. As well as others. OK so on your comment about not moving it 300 miles away......you talking from you or Gilmer?? "Ridiculous" or not that is what was agreed upon by the members that actually already paid and have made the commitment. Unless someone has a fortune tell in there frigging pocket how are we suppose to now the weather 2-3 months out. Can any of you do it, I know we as the BoD can not.

Just to clarify for you Jay. My name is Luke and Ive met you down at Kurts place a couple times in the past and at both ROMs that I have attended. I drive the bright blue or blurple Jeep. And no you didnt fix anything on my jeep. The comment about 300 miles is from Gilmer to Marble Falls according to Google maps. No nobody can tell the future or predict the weather 2-3 months out. My comment was meant to explain that if some simple rain was going to cause this much trouble then Barnwell should have never been considered.

We are trying to have good time and well when it rains at Gilmer it is not a good time. Ask those that where there two years ago. Once again I was there and yeah the weather got nasty and ruined the event but alot of the problem was the way the event was run. Dont take that as a knock against Kurt or Justin.

You state right in your own response that the weather got nasty and ruined the vent. Yes other things happened to.

Yep you got me there but that was more a mistake in words than anything. The weather made the event messy and not as fun. That weather was rain, wind, snow, and plummeting temperatures not just rain. The year before when it only rained and the event didnt fall apart everybody still seemed to have fun.

We knew this was going to piss a few people off and I am sorry for that. With the people that say they "might" be able to make it we where more concerned about the ones that made a commitment to he there. As sad as that sounds it's the truth. The purpose of a chapter wide event is to try and cater to as many people as possible and changing the location at the last minute does the exact opposite. For instance, I have to come up with another $100-150 just for gas in less than a week to be able to make it down. Take that as an example not an excuse or simple complaint. And as for the argument that you checked with the members that pre-registered is total BS. Those arent the only members that count. Ive been saying from the beginning that I would be there but pay at the event and have been active in the threads about ROM. Heck Ive even brought the threads back up to make sure everyone has the most info they can get when the BOD members didnt.

To get this chapter to do any thing together is like pulling teeth. We have to many kids and or adults that never left high school and like the drama and do not know what a real life is. Changing the location to benefit those that paid and committed themselves is in my eyes and theirs and the president(yes I pm'ed him before actually doing this) is more beneficial. It pisses some of and it makes some happy. The ones that committed are happy the ones that just say they will be there (whether they actually are sincere or something comes up) will of course be unhappy. About you bringing the post back up.. TY but that info that was added was really not needed till later if not at all. We the Bod add things when needed not necessarily when others feel it is needed. We do this for a reason.

The drama and random BS is the main reason I dont post more than I do. So how is moving the event closer to those that prepaid more beneficial other than not having to travel as far? Theres a greater chance of rain there at Hidden Falls. Once again if the prepaid members input is all that matters than preregistration should be made mandatory or at least mention that fact when announcing the event. My comment about bringing threads back was meant more to show that not just prepaid members were the ones that cared. It was not a knock against the BOD or any member. And the info I asked for was important information.


To all that are still going to try to go we thank thank you and to those that can not make it we are sorry.



As yall can tell by now Im quite pissed about this happening. I wouldnt have said a word if the event had been planned for Hidden Falls from the beginning as I would have just planned for it. Notice my post count and youll see I hardly post unless I feel the need to. I am active in the club participating in events and trying to meet the members though. Unfortunately its stuff like this that has led to many a chapter member being run off or just giving up on the chapter I believe. I sure hope for the chapters sake that yall correct this so that we dont lose any more of the very few members we do have. Im not attacking anyone so please dont take it that way. But I would love to hear other members views on this issue.


How do you purpose we "FIX" this.... The event is not going back to Gilmer this year.

Youre right the event probably wont be moved back to Gilmer where it should be. The fix I was mentioning has more to do with correcting the way things are handled and making sure something like this doesnt happen again unnecessarily.

OK now to the other posts......

Im not going to hold a grudge and have no harsh feeling towards any particular member. Im still considering making the trip over for the run.

 

[magimerlin]

Yah the quote feature can make things get long...lol. I am glad you are still going to try to make the run. Would be glad to have yah there.

 

[lwbtex]

well said jay:yelclap: but ur just !!!1....

Wouldnt call it a dead horse. If youre talking about the traveling issue yes it has been beat to death but if you read my comment I clearly state that its not a matter of location it is the last minute change thats the problem. So Rich would you try to comment in a little greater detail next time please.

And before its brought up no I didnt make the trip over there for last years ROM as it just wasnt in the cards. Youll also notice if you were to look back that not one word was said by myself as I understand the whole this is the RRC so youre going to have to travel to wheel.

 

[lwbtex]

So you only stay at the pavilion? Just because the say its a "Mountain" doesn't make it one. Gilmer is in no way shape or fashion a mountain. It's just a large area with some decent elevation changes.

Id be willing to bet Tanker has been to Barnwell more than any of us so hes probably speaking from experience. And we have all seen how much pavilion wheeling he has done. How many magazines are your pavilion pics in now anyways Tanker?