Pinging Jeep 4.0L, need advice

Dr. Dyno said:
Read my first post again and you'll find the answer. :)

Ok, I've got the internal engine cleaner from Mopar for both of us and will give it a try as soon as I can find a location where tons of white smoke won't bother my neighbors.

Your Jeep's buildup page is fantastic! I'm going to have to keep my son away from it though because he will want to do every mod you have to his Comanche. :-)
 
. As for the gas we use, we buy from a variety of Phillips 66, Amoco-type national name brand stations (no Mom and Pops). So, unless they are all in cahoots nationaly, I doubt we are getting "watered down" gas.
At the price of gas I would not say it couldn't happen. All gas it made in the same refineries it all starts out the same. It then goes to a distributor in your area where the additives are added in and it’s cut for different octane. The stuffs like gold now so I can see where someone would cheat the system. It happens a lot in Ohio because there is no standards for octane or any testing.

All the name brands here in Ohio have lawsuits pending or have settled out of Court for watering down the fuel.
 
Just an update, after using the Chrysler upper combustion chamber cleaner on three occasions...my Jeep still pings. Rats. By the way, with the engine good and hot there wasn't much smoke untill I started it up after adding the stuff and letting it sit for a couple hours. By that time it was dark.

Anyway, pining continues unabated after the additives. What sensors might it be? I've replaced the TPS but none others and the computer shows no codes.

Any advice/experience would be helpful.
 
My 2000 will ping in the hills too if lugg the moter to much. High test gas is what is recomended by the FSM if no bad componets are the cause. I tried a lower temp thermastat with decent results, but have sense replaced it with a factory temp when I moved to a flatter area. Something you might try is lower temp plugs.
 
Funny, nobody has mentioned my favorite way of removing carbon yet. When I first got my '91 it had about 230k on it, and ran like crap due to a number of things, including carbon buildup. I tried using seafoam, but after a whole bottle it only marginally improved how the engine ran. After a bit of digging around looking for something that would do a better job than seafoam I stumbled onto something that should have been obvious: water does a great job cleaning carbon.

Anyone who's had to replace a blown headgasket that's caused coolant consumption can tell you that the easiest way to spot where the gasket blew is to look for the cleanest combustion chamber. So I grabbed a small plastic soda bottle, punched a small hole in the cap, filled it up with water, and went out to the Jeep. I pulled the brake booster line off, started it up, and trickled water down the brake booster line. Now I knew I needed to be careful here, as dumping a large quantity of water into the intake would be a VERY bad idea. It would be more than a little embarassing explaining to the mechanic exactly how I managed to hydrolock the motor in my driveway. However, after emptying the bottle into the intake over the course of a couple minutes, I shut it off, hooked the brake booster back up (don't forget this! I almost trashed my neighbor's yard once after forgetting this), and started the Jeep up. Before I had done all this sitting in the Jeep at idle felt like sitting in some twisted amusement park ride, but now it was idleing smoother than it ever had for me. I went for a drive to the gas station, filled it up with regular (I had been using premium before), and it was still running better than it had in a long time. It's been about 10k miles since I did this and it's still running great on regular.
 
scoobyxj said:
My 2000 will ping in the hills too if lugg the moter to much. High test gas is what is recomended by the FSM if no bad componets are the cause. I tried a lower temp thermastat with decent results, but have sense replaced it with a factory temp when I moved to a flatter area. Something you might try is lower temp plugs.


My '96 pings and the lower temp plugs helped a lot, but the engine still pings on regular when it's really hot out with the cooler plugs.

There is a service bulletin from Jeep about getting your ECU reflashed to retard your timing just a touch which should cure the pinging. Assuming the cause is not carbon build up.
 
wraithblade said:
Funny, nobody has mentioned my favorite way of removing carbon yet. When I first got my '91 it had about 230k on it, and ran like crap due to a number of things, including carbon buildup. I tried using seafoam, but after a whole bottle it only marginally improved how the engine ran. After a bit of digging around looking for something that would do a better job than seafoam I stumbled onto something that should have been obvious: water does a great job cleaning carbon.

Anyone who's had to replace a blown headgasket that's caused coolant consumption can tell you that the easiest way to spot where the gasket blew is to look for the cleanest combustion chamber. So I grabbed a small plastic soda bottle, punched a small hole in the cap, filled it up with water, and went out to the Jeep. I pulled the brake booster line off, started it up, and trickled water down the brake booster line. Now I knew I needed to be careful here, as dumping a large quantity of water into the intake would be a VERY bad idea. It would be more than a little embarassing explaining to the mechanic exactly how I managed to hydrolock the motor in my driveway. However, after emptying the bottle into the intake over the course of a couple minutes, I shut it off, hooked the brake booster back up (don't forget this! I almost trashed my neighbor's yard once after forgetting this), and started the Jeep up. Before I had done all this sitting in the Jeep at idle felt like sitting in some twisted amusement park ride, but now it was idleing smoother than it ever had for me. I went for a drive to the gas station, filled it up with regular (I had been using premium before), and it was still running better than it had in a long time. It's been about 10k miles since I did this and it's still running great on regular.
That's an old-time mechanics trick that is pretty effective, as you have discovered.
 
CherokeeDad said:
Just an update, after using the Chrysler upper combustion chamber cleaner on three occasions...my Jeep still pings. Rats. By the way, with the engine good and hot there wasn't much smoke untill I started it up after adding the stuff and letting it sit for a couple hours. By that time it was dark.

Anyway, pining continues unabated after the additives. What sensors might it be? I've replaced the TPS but none others and the computer shows no codes.

Any advice/experience would be helpful.

I just noticed your location, have you tried a High Altitude CPS?
 
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