Osama is dead?

[Alienspecimen]

So... tell us what, exactly, is taking place over in Egypt...

Cant speak on behalf of McQue, but he is a big boy and am sure he he'll let you know. Point is that he knew what my statement meant.

That would probably be due to his apparant lack of understanding of what is really taking place over in the middle east... yours too?

Great, looking forward to being enlightened. Your facts supported by credible sources would be nice...

Best

Boris

 

[XJEEPER]

XJEEPER you are out of line here... seems to me he is simply stating it would be good if the internal rebellions going on like the one that happened in Egypt continued... I don't see where he said anything of the sort about how "We should help facilitate the Muslim Brotherhood spread their agenda Eastward as quickly as possible"....get you head out of your butt and stop making epic statements of ignorance.

Out of line or hitting the target dead center?

Rebellion against oppressive regimes is great. Replacing one oppressive regime with another oppressive regime that has a history of organizing and supporting world terrorism and is fixated on the destruction of Israel, is not.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703703304576297302703943680.html

Israel is very concerned about MB's political aspirations in Egypt, for good reason. Americans should be too.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=206969

The Muslim Brotherhood's clearly stated goals of global domination:

..Jihad for Allah is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and it shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, the State of Islam will be established,..."

"Allah is our goal, the Prophet is our leader, the Quran is our constitution, the Jihad is our way, and the Death for Allah is our most exalted wish.

The Laws of Da'wa (Part) 5

Jihad is the Way

By Mustafa Mashhur-Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt 1996-2002 http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=4603

"The poll by the Pew Research Center of Muslim attitudes, published in Dec. 2010, indicates how frighteningly fertile the ground is for the Islamists in Egypt: 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning people who commit adultery; 77% favor whipping/ cutting off of hands for theft and robbery; and 84% favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim religion, it found."

Boris, please enlighten us as to which organization is leading the "reform" in Egypt and how their role will bring about a democracy that recognizes and upholds the God-given rights and freedoms that all mankind should be allowed to enjoy?

PS, I do enjoy listening to Rush......5150 is a great album.

 

[420BlackXJ]

PS, I do enjoy listening to Rush......5150 is a great album.

Are we all to assume your knowledge of politics is as reliable as this gaffe?
5150 is Van Halen. You might be thinking of Rush's 2112.:roflmao:

 

[XJEEPER]

:doh:Correct. 2112. Both are great albums and I've got no problem admitting when I'm wrong.

You can assume whatever you want.......I back up my opinions with data. If you have proof that this data is inaccurate, please share with us.

 

[420BlackXJ]

:doh:Correct. 2112. Both are great albums and I've got no problem admitting when I'm wrong.

When caught dead to rights, I agree.

 

[Crawler]

Great, looking forward to being enlightened. Your facts supported by credible sources would be nice...

Best

Boris

Oh no you're not, Bor-bor...

Thanks to XJEEPER, there has been page after page after page after page of accurate credible resource material presented here for you to verify.
He's on it so fast and thoroughly that it's rare anyone else has much to add. You've chosen to ignore or reject such information in favor of remaining
in the dark, from where you appear just long enough to spew more useless unsupported sarcasm when your misconceptions are challenged.

If you're really "looking forward to being enlightened", here's a horrific example of how a shia-based system deals with common social issues:

http://shoebat.com/videos/muslimsBurn.php

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[Boatwrench]

http://shoebat.com/videos/muslimsBurn.php

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Does the name Matthew Shepard ring a bell? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Was the Muslim Brotherhood behind the overthrow of the Egyptian government? Has that group emerged as the leader of the country? I don't know, there has been too much wag the dog lately to figure out what is the truth and what is smoke & mirrors.

 

[Darky]

Does the name Matthew Shepard ring a bell? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Was the Muslim Brotherhood behind the overthrow of the Egyptian government? Has that group emerged as the leader of the country? I don't know, there has been too much wag the dog lately to figure out what is the truth and what is smoke & mirrors.

You mean the man who was tortured and murdered by a couple of sickos who had no motivation other than greed and a twisted brain? I fail to see the connection to organized, gov't and/or religiously sanctioned murder.

 

[Crawler]

Does the name Matthew Shepard ring a bell? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Wow, dude... I expected a lot better than that out of you... :dunno:

Darky's comment is pretty much spot on.

I would only add that where sharia prevails, organization amounts to little more than having a copy of the quran handy.

 

[bigalpha]

Does the Muslim faith condone burning homosexuals alive?

 

[bjoehandley]

You mean the man who was tortured and murdered by a couple of sickos who had no motivation other than greed and a twisted brain? I fail to see the connection to organized, gov't and/or religiously sanctioned murder.

I thought that was because he was gay, not greed, although I have to agree on the sicko and twisted brains part.....do have to wonder what made them think that was ok though

 

[Crawler]

Does the Muslim faith condone burning homosexuals alive?

Under sharia law, the penalty for homosexuality can be execution by any method a judge decries.

Most often it results in stoning, followed by hanging.
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[Darky]

Does the Muslim faith condone burning homosexuals alive?

I won't debate if the Koran supports it or not as I don't read Arabic, but it is something that comes up quite regularly in Muslim dominated countries and would seem to have a basis under shari'a law as was pointed out.

 

[Boatwrench]

I thought that was because he was gay, not greed, although I have to agree on the sicko and twisted brains part.....do have to wonder what made them think that was ok though

Matthew Sheppard was killed because he was gay.

How about this for a better example...That Kansas (freeboro?) Baptist church that is out protesting at soldiers funerals. A fringe group of Christianity that wants death to America because of some tolerance of gays. The Muslim Brotherhood does not equate to all members of the Islamic faith just as that fringe group from Kansas doesn't represent all Christians.

My cousin from Okalahoma (she's Baptist) called and wanted to make sure I would vote against gay marriage here in California, so even IMO moderates are opposed to the gay lifestyle.

 

[96XJ9705]

I thought that was because he was gay, not greed, although I have to agree on the sicko and twisted brains part.....do have to wonder what made them think that was ok though

According to the source of all that is true (Wikipedia) he was targeted because he was rich and gay and small. Basically they wanted to rob a gay man and then picked him because he was rich and small (high pay-off, low risk). Why they did what they did after that can only be ascribed to the twisted brains and sicko's part.

 

[Darky]

Matthew Sheppard was killed because he was gay.

How about this for a better example...That Kansas (freeboro?) Baptist church that is out protesting at soldiers funerals. A fringe group of Christianity that wants death to America because of some tolerance of gays. The Muslim Brotherhood does not equate to all members of the Islamic faith just as that fringe group from Kansas doesn't represent all Christians.

My cousin from Okalahoma (she's Baptist) called and wanted to make sure I would vote against gay marriage here in California, so even IMO moderates are opposed to the gay lifestyle.

The big difference being that Westboro organizes peaceful (if decidedly stupid and evil) protests, the fringe groups of Islam tend to be more violent. Besides, I don't think the debate was about which religion does worse things, it was about why should we want that particular group, the Muslim Brotherhood, to expand their power base? As for the gay debate within Christianity, I think you'll find that many, if not most, Christians are opposed to homosexuality. However, most of those will not advocate violence against gays, and those that truly read their Bibles and follow Christ won't see a gay man as being any worse off than they are themselves.

And if you were to refer to it as "the gay lifestyle" amongst a group of gays, they'd likely correct you very quickly that they were born that way...that's not a debate that I would like to open here however...

 

[Boatwrench]

Besides, I don't think the debate was about which religion does worse things.....

The overall debate wasn't, but crawler's link to support his point was Muslims are stoning and hanging people just because they are gay. Our culture is not much different, we have fringe & extremists groups also.

 

[96XJ9705]

Right, because we publicly stone gay people all the time out here in the West. Maybe it's different back east or in the south, but if we don't kill one GLTG a week the townspeople get antsy.

There is a large divide between our fringe and theirs both in numbers and public acceptance. Both fringe groups are nutjobs that don't recognize others as people and do what they want, but here they are prosecuted rather than going back to work on Monday.