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Occupy a hot shower.
Occupy a job.
Occupy a job.
Occupy Wall Street
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Employment isn't on the OWS agenda........:nono:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrvOeDxBrw&feature=player_embedded#!
Gotta destroy the capitolist system first, then everyone will collect an equal salary from their government provided job, plus free education and healthcare. Community organizers UNITE!
http://biggovernment.com/tag/lisa-fithian/
This NYPD Officer gets it...........
“It is far from the butterflies and Bambis that the media is trying to portray,” he told us. He described sexual assault as being a particular problem, partly because of drug use at the site:
There are many incidents of sexual touching and groping that goes unreported to us, mainly because the alleged victim is either too stoned or high to properly ID them or they “dont want to get the guy in trouble.” One girl, with hickeys all over her neck was brought to us and claimed she was raped….She said she had gotten high and had sex with one guy then sex with the other guy, but when guy #3 tried, she rebuffed him. She later got stoned somewhere else and returned to her place where guy #3 came back and had sex with her (she thinks) but she remembers blacking out and him leaving and her pants off.
He concluded that sexual assault in Zuccotti Park “is much more wide spread than even they [the activists] think.”
As for the cause motivating the Occupy Wall Street protest, the NYPD officer told us:
Although personally, I agree in principle with them in pointing out the flaws of our government, however they’re protesting the wrong group. It wasn’t banks who caused the housing meltdown. It wasn’t banks who tanked the economy. It’s the politicians and the special interest money in politics that has destroyed this country. Banks are easy targets. When they set up this protest on the front lawn of the White House, or on the steps of the Capitol, then I’d support it. Hell I might even set up a tent myself. However until they protest each and every congressman and senator and this president, they are a bunch of hypocrites. And you know damn well that they would never ever protest a sitting Democrat POTUS, especially this one.
Everyone has a right to protest, yet that right stops when it infringes upon another’s rights. And as long as you don’t break the law everything is fine, but for some of them, breaking the law is their aim.
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Hmmm... I wonder who stagged those headhunters. Moreso, many of the protestors stated they were employed, so nice job trying to stereotype them all as unemployeed hippies. Better luck next time sunshine.
Hmmm... Didn't Dick Armey backroll the tea party effectively turning it into Dick's Army?.. He denied it, of coarse, calling them a "grassroots" movement because they don't have anyone in charge ...which is ironic on a few levels when you think about it.
Information continues to come in that sheds light on the character of most of these "Occupy" protesters. Rape has become a very serious concern. In one video, organizers were arguing over whether to report or suppress a crime (rape) in an effort to avoid negative press. Seriously?
In another case, a young girl was raped and robbed and no one would help her. Obviously, not all protesters agree that rape or not reporting sexual assualt is okay, but this f**ked up behavior is tolerated/perpetrated by more than just a fringe element of the OWS group.
In another case, a young girl was raped and robbed and no one would help her. Obviously, not all protesters agree that rape or not reporting sexual assualt is okay, but this f**ked up behavior is tolerated/perpetrated by more than just a fringe element of the OWS group.
It's certainly reprehensible behavior, but let's not fool ourselves.
Rape isn't mutually exclusive to the OWS movement; frat parties, concerts, clubs, etc share the same fate.
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San Diego - "The city Wednesday offered rent concessions to the owner of a Civic Center Plaza coffee cart, who claimed that harassment by Occupy San Diego protesters forced her close up shop.
She said she had to close down on Oct. 24 after she was threatened by protesters and followed home. Her cart, she said, was in a pool of urine from people who had set up a tent city in the plaza." KFMB - 8.
It's not Wall Street, it's coffee and hot dog carts. lol
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So you are saying the only thing the poor have to eat are the rapists?
Wonder if they taste better than the rich...
What a foolish statement. Since rape isn't "mutually exclusive to the OWS movement" it's okay? It says a LOT about the character/personality of the OWS movement. Birds of a feather...
You thin out the OWS crowd of rapists; the remaining protestors will be forced to rally around common goals so they can get the fukk off the streets, or sit around eating soylent sausages until they die from the human form of mad cow disease. If those steps fail to light a fire under this movement's feet to produce results than nothing will.
I heard it varies from person to person.
The fact I said rape’s reprehensible should-have been a tell-tale sign I'm disgusted by the behavior. Rape occurs everywhere; you're making it sound like only OWS protestors are rapists. Stop eating so many soylent sausages; they've clearly affected the logic center of your brain.
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Using your logic, all born again Christians are like those Christians from Westboro...birds of a feather you know.
BT=BT=BT
The Oakland protest this afternoon swelled after 5PM, that's when the folks with jobs got off work and joined in. The OPD estimated the crowd at over 4000 (probably fluffed up for federal & state aid) and that only 50-65 professional anarchists are causing problems. Now lets say the 4000 number is inflated by 25%, that would still be 3000ish protestors.
Closing the port. The ILWU on the west coast used to have in their contracts two days a year for civil action (seriously). I do not know if that clause is still in the CBA, but it could be why the port was a focus.
This is not about people that need baths and showers. In Occupy Petaluma, (yea a town of ~60K) approximately 150 people showed up for the rally. There were two police officers present.
The law breaking anarchists need to be held accountable. The alleged rapists need to be held accountable. Peaceful protests are a Constitutional right and the tea party supporters should support citizens execizing their Constitutional rights.
The bill to the City of Oakland for police services OT last week was estimated to cost $1M. San Francisco has spent a lot less and the labor unions on the west side of the bay are funding porta potties. Public urination is still a problem, throughout the city, not just at Occupy SF campsite.
Occupy SF campsite will be broken up next Wednesday or Thursday. The Mayor and DA election will be over.
You'd do better to address the issue rather than misrepresent my position with a false analogy.
Follow along... The rate of crime associated with the OWS protests is going up. This isn't about the vandalism, breaking & entering, destruction of private property, and other acts of civial disobediance that's occuring; it's about the crimes happening right in the midst of the protest camps. And it isn't about a few bad apples. It's much bigger than that.
Obviously, not every protester is a criminal because someone has to be the victim. Think for a sec....some of these are VERY serious crimes. Whether you support the protesters or not, do you agree with the OWS leadership to suppress information about the crimes in a concerted effort to avoid bad press? Yes, they are failing to report the crimes, which is a crime in itself. Yes, there is video evidence of the leadership discussing how they should keep quiet to avoid bad publicity. What a great representation of high ethical and moral qualities! Is this where you argue that the ends justify the means? Is it okay to overlook crimes because we serve a greater need? Is that what you defend?
Again, that their primary goal is to avoid bad publicity at the expense of bringing criminals to justice says a lot about the character of these so called "leaders." That so many crimes take place against people who supposedly share a common goal also speaks to the character of a large segment of the protest group. This isn't a wacko fringe element like the group from Westboro.
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flip side of the coin,
OWS protestors were tweeting into Oakland PD last night the activity of the professional anarchists and this morning were cleaning up the vandalism. One of the actual OWS protestors was beaten while attempting to prevent arson by the anarchist group. Yeah arson is not rape.
Here's the deal, you painted with a broad brush and so did I. Is there a bad element within the OWS camps? Yes there is, but just like society as a whole that element is the minority.
OWS protestors were tweeting into Oakland PD last night the activity of the professional anarchists and this morning were cleaning up the vandalism. One of the actual OWS protestors was beaten while attempting to prevent arson by the anarchist group. Yeah arson is not rape.
Here's the deal, you painted with a broad brush and so did I. Is there a bad element within the OWS camps? Yes there is, but just like society as a whole that element is the minority.
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you aint occupyin' here.....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/03/BACM1LQ5FU.DTL&tsp=1
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/03/BACM1LQ5FU.DTL&tsp=1
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Why would the liberal media not show support for a movement like OWS? That's right, the media is not liberal it is conservative corporate owned.
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Thanks Mike, I got a belly laugh out of that one!
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Well done!
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Here's the problem with rape/assault/etc at the occupy(whatever) gatherings. The protesters are not letting the police into their encampments, not reporting the crimes, doing nothing to prevent/stop the attacks from occurring, and actively discouraging the victims from reporting the crime.
They "don't condone" the attacks, but are actively encouraging them by their failure to do anything about them.
As for painting with a broad brush,..If a tea party gathering resulted in any kind of crime, it would have been reported as a group activity. 'Seems like they have been branded as deep end religious, racist, etc because of the acts of a few, who were/are disowned and actively discouraged by the greater mass.
Every time something bad happens at an "Occupy" site, it's just the actions of a few bad apples.(even though they do nothing to discourage the problem behavior,..) Wonder how the press would react if any of that activity was reported by a tea party gathering,..
Of course, the masses of legitimate "occupy" protesters can't do anything about the crazies/anarchists/professional troublemakers in their midst. I mean,.. just look at the trouble the tea party rallies had controlling the anarchists,... oh, that's right, there were no problems at the tea party rallies,..
They "don't condone" the attacks, but are actively encouraging them by their failure to do anything about them.
As for painting with a broad brush,..If a tea party gathering resulted in any kind of crime, it would have been reported as a group activity. 'Seems like they have been branded as deep end religious, racist, etc because of the acts of a few, who were/are disowned and actively discouraged by the greater mass.
Every time something bad happens at an "Occupy" site, it's just the actions of a few bad apples.(even though they do nothing to discourage the problem behavior,..) Wonder how the press would react if any of that activity was reported by a tea party gathering,..
Of course, the masses of legitimate "occupy" protesters can't do anything about the crazies/anarchists/professional troublemakers in their midst. I mean,.. just look at the trouble the tea party rallies had controlling the anarchists,... oh, that's right, there were no problems at the tea party rallies,..
