- Location
- San Diego
News for Johnson Valley
- Thread starter rockclimber
- Start date
- Location
- Hammertown, USA
Good is relative I guess.
We lose 40% of JV up front, and get to share another 35% or so with the military, who will probably drop our access to it as soon as they decide it is 'live fire' (which includes the hammers area)
We lose 40% of JV up front, and get to share another 35% or so with the military, who will probably drop our access to it as soon as they decide it is 'live fire' (which includes the hammers area)
- Location
- San Diego
We knew something was going to happen.
Bad news would be losing all of it.
I guess you could say this is medium news
Bad news would be losing all of it.
I guess you could say this is medium news
WAZZUXJ
SoCal_XJ FB
- Location
- Aurora, CO
While I was in the Marines the CAX (Combat Arms Exercise) in Twenty-Nine Palms was run twice a year, typically in March/April and then September/October. So, figure about 30 days around each of those time frames when the off-road area would be closed for Military use.
- Location
- Bakersfield, CA
If you look at all the so called "compromises" we've had in the past regarding land use, this one is a huge win and a huge swing of the pendulum in our direction. In previous compromises we've been totally screwed. Yes, we lost a good amount of acreage of OHV area, and yes we lost some great historic desert race course, and that is sad. Those of us who desert raced and pre-ran and raced KOH spent a good amount of time in the area that was lost, but for weekend wheeling and running trails we rarely went in that area.
What did happen is that the OHV community represented and negotiated with Congress and the Marines to save the Hammer trails, and the trails have been saved. There is a first time ever OHV area designated by Congress. Washington knows who we are, they know our impact, and they know our economic impact. Going forward that in itself is a huge win. The OHV community, and for the first time the OHV industry came together in a well organized and well funded effort regarding an important land use issue. That organization is not going to go away. We've been wanting the Washington politicians to recognize us and now they do.
This isn't a bunch of scoping meetings and comment sessions sitting across from the Sierra Club and the Forest Service, this was in the back rooms and halls of Washington. We should be proud and happy for this, while we still wince that we lost more acreage.
BTW, the shared use area is designated as no live fire. And it is controlled by the BLM not the Marines, and the Marines have to apply for and comply with stipulations in the permit. We'll have to see when they'll use it, but the BLM will have a say in it.
What did happen is that the OHV community represented and negotiated with Congress and the Marines to save the Hammer trails, and the trails have been saved. There is a first time ever OHV area designated by Congress. Washington knows who we are, they know our impact, and they know our economic impact. Going forward that in itself is a huge win. The OHV community, and for the first time the OHV industry came together in a well organized and well funded effort regarding an important land use issue. That organization is not going to go away. We've been wanting the Washington politicians to recognize us and now they do.
This isn't a bunch of scoping meetings and comment sessions sitting across from the Sierra Club and the Forest Service, this was in the back rooms and halls of Washington. We should be proud and happy for this, while we still wince that we lost more acreage.
BTW, the shared use area is designated as no live fire. And it is controlled by the BLM not the Marines, and the Marines have to apply for and comply with stipulations in the permit. We'll have to see when they'll use it, but the BLM will have a say in it.
- Location
- Wasatch Range
Nice!!
- Location
- Bakersfield, CA
This is a very good commentary by Dave Cole on the recent events leading up to this compromise in Congress that did end up saving our JV trails. We lost valuable acreage for desert racing and motorcycle riding, but we saved plenty of acreage for desert racing courses and all the existing Hammer trails.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-chit-chat/1555890-jvohv-3.html#post22782305
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-chit-chat/1555890-jvohv-3.html#post22782305
bluejeepkid
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bullhead City
Does this mean the fight is over? Or??
- Location
- Hammertown, USA
Once the paperwork goes through, yes.
bluejeepkid
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bullhead City
bluejeepkid
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bullhead City
Lookin forward to seeing you guys there in February
- Location
- San Diego
no.
the fight is never over.
we have to maintain or we will keep loosing land.
this is a stepping stone.
in2dirt01
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- California
No, Feinstein is going to try and push her land grab in the Mojave soon. Since she claims she worked with Cook on the legislation, I wouldn't doubt if she says look at all this land I gave the OHV enthusiasts in JV now I'm taking Stoddard Wells, etc.
The battle will NEVER be over. To many environmental zealots around to keep trying to stop us from recreating responsibly on public lands.
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