look out Red River

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nor do I have one in each and every one of our vehicles, nor would I have assault rifles, hi capacity tactical shotguns, or easily concealed pocket guns.
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What the hells wrong with you?!
 
I come from a big gun family....Mack10, Uzi, Ar-15, Glocks, .38 Snub nose, .38 Special, etc. I have no idea why my parents think that they need that kind of fire power. I can understand people feeling that they are protecting themselves by owning a fire arm (altho I feel very confident that I could take any of them out with my long bow before they even knew they needed to be protected). I just believe that if I ever lived in a place where I was so scared that I had to have multiple weapons in multiple locations throughout my home, I'd find another place to live!
 
MischiefMan said:
I come from a big gun family....Mack10, Uzi, Ar-15, Glocks, .38 Snub nose, .38 Special, etc. I have no idea why my parents think that they need that kind of fire power. I can understand people feeling that they are protecting themselves by owning a fire arm (altho I feel very confident that I could take any of them out with my long bow before they even knew they needed to be protected). I just believe that if I ever lived in a place where I was so scared that I had to have multiple weapons in multiple locations throughout my home, I'd find another place to live!
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Genius, yeah if someone was wanting to assassinate you then maybe your weapons wouldn't help you, but on the off chance that someone decides to invade your home/personal space in an attemp to harm you or someone you care about I'd like to see how well your "long bow" would work in that situation. People with your mentality are who we hear about on the news, they are called victim's. I do not live in a bad area, I do not walk around afraid something is bad is going to happen, nor am I some gun owning right wing militia man, however, I do believe in being prepared for WHATEVER comes my way as best as I possibly can.
 
I'm Mexican. We need guns lol. That's my reason. When ever we get the call to take over the United States we'll be ready muahahaha! :D jp lol
 
LOL!!!! Thanks for the laugh Justin!

I'm not sure why you feel that you are qualified to make such statements, but I'll chalk it up to ignorance on your part. I'm sorry that I do not agree with the redneck mentality, it does not make mine wrong though. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect that you want to protect you and yours in the way that you see best. I wish you the best of luck with that.

I know that my child will never get shot with, or shoot someone else with a firearm that I own. Sadly they are the true victims. Parents THINK that they can bring their children up to respect the weapons, but they also think that they can bring their children up to respect others, do well in school, not steal, not take drugs, and obey the laws of this country. So...umm...yeah...how well is that working out?

I'm not sure why you put long bow in quote. It's a 6 foot, hand carved English style long bow with approximately 150 lbs. draw. There's a pic of it floating around here somewhere....along with my claymore, dagger, and possibly at least one other blade.
 
I put long bow in quotes, because the fact that it is LONG probably makes it a little harder to operate in a confined area such as your home in a hurry when engaged in close combat with someone. Also on those same lines do you keep your long bow in your car? Do you have it on you at all times (like that movie the weatherman)? Your dagger may work better in a close combat situation, but lets face it, how experienced are you at knife fighting? Or are you secretly a ninja? I have had over five hundred hours in hand to hand combat/defense tactics including fighting with/defending against a knife, but I'd much rather be able to reach out and touch someone from a distance over in your face confrontation. I do not have children, but you can rest assured they will be educated about firearms, and will also not have access to any of the ones that I DO NOT own. ;) However, you too, are free to believe as you wish, but I choose to be prepared.
 
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Also I wanted to clarify, I wasn't taking a jab at you, and sarcastically calling you a "genius". I was just saying that that was a genius mentality to have. After I read over it again, i realized that is how it sounded.
 
Oh, and those who are trusting in the police for their protection.... Over 90% of the time they will get there just in time............... just in time to make a chalk outline of the bodies. It's not because they don't want to do their jobs, it is just because it is impossible to be everywhere at once. Trust me..... I was one.
 
i carry a gun because a policeman is too big to fit in my pocket.
 
MischiefMan said:
I come from a big gun family....Mack10, Uzi, Ar-15, Glocks, .38 Snub nose, .38 Special, etc. I have no idea why my parents think that they need that kind of fire power. I can understand people feeling that they are protecting themselves by owning a fire arm (altho I feel very confident that I could take any of them out with my long bow before they even knew they needed to be protected). I just believe that if I ever lived in a place where I was so scared that I had to have multiple weapons in multiple locations throughout my home, I'd find another place to live!
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There is any number of reasons that I may have multiple weapons in my home. Protection is one. Collection and climbing value may be another. How much have your stocks tanked in the last few years? Guns, not so much.

And for the record, .38 snub nose chambers the .38 special round. While it is a widely "carried" round, I don't think it fits the implied end of fire power that you're shooting for there. AR-15, I mean come on, 5.56 is an anemic round compared to battle rifles of old that chambered 8 rounds of 30.06. But that AR-15 is black and evil looking, must be some serious firepower!
 
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My guns scarrer then your gun..o I sold all mine...hmmm yes thats it i sold them....
There is a difference in a gun for plesure and 1 for protection. And 1 must be aware of that. Someone with a 9mm is far more dangerous in a city home or apertment because a standerd white box round will go through 13 layers of sheetrock. A 410 judge, the overkill gun of all time only goes through 3 with 410 shot in it. Thats why the judge is rated the top home defince gun right now. And rember just because u have no guns at home doesnt protect your kids from them the least. Now when they go to a friends house and see 1 they will be more curious to look at/play with the 1 they do find, but hey atleast it wont be at your house. My 6 year old son can shoot a coke can at 40yards with open sites with HIS .22. But wont touch the guns i "used" to own nor anyone elses because he knows if he wants to see it all he has to do is ask. I have made it a rule in my family no matter what im doing if my kids ask about a gun to stop immediatly and let them see handel or shoot it depending on what they are wanting. There is always the possibility somthing bad ould happen, but edjucated children and adults are always smarter and tend to make better decisions then unedjucated ones.. (i probally misspelled edjucated)
 
I don't disagree with any of that cobra....

But I have lots of friends who were educated about drugs...yep they do them. I have family members who have died because drugs....and others that have died because of guns. Educating about the dangers really is only part of the solution.

I also agree with your statement about "just because you don't own guns"...which is why I specifically stated that any such accident will not be as a result of a fire arm that I own.

I want to be very clear that I am not anti-gun. I am a firm supporter of a person's right to bear arms (even though that is a misnomer because a person does not have the right to bear arms, I cannot walk around with my claymore or several of the other blades that I have had in my collection, so the right to guns is more accurate).

Will....I guess that would depend on one's definition of "fire power." I'm not positive, but I know that my father has 2 different clips for his AR-15 that fire two completely different styles of rounds...but that is really a comment made for reference than anything else. The it really matters not to me whether the two .38's fire different rounds or not...they were just examples of the multiple guns that were in the household that I grew up in.

Sorry guys for ever making the initial comment. I should have known better.
 
MischiefMan said:
I know that my child will never get shot with, or shoot someone else with a firearm that I own. Sadly they are the true victims. Parents THINK that they can bring their children up to respect the weapons, but they also think that they can bring their children up to respect others, do well in school, not steal, not take drugs, and obey the laws of this country. So...umm...yeah...how well is that working out?
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So what you're saying is, that I am a redneck and my mentality is going to get my son killed. You feel sorry for him because I have guns in my house, lots of them. gotcha.

So when the mountain lions come for the goats I'll just let them have them. When the coyotes come for the chickens, screw it, i'll just buy more chickens. When some random dog or wolf comes and attacks my livestock or animals, I'll just fetch yonder longbow and broadsword and get all braveheart on it's ass, because that's an effective and accurate method to shoot up to 300 yds (my property line)

THink outside of your narrow world to understand why we actually need guns and need our children to be exposed to them and respect them. I understand why you don't think you need guns, and didn't accuse you of putting your family in danger.
 
Umm...yeah...Brandon, I think that you read WAY more into that than what was actually said.

Is there a particular reason that you would need 12 different weapons to protect those goats, chickens etc.?

And....yeah...it is possible for a long bow to accurately shoot for 300 yards man...don't believe me, look it up.

So, Brandon, using your logic, your child needs to be exposed to electricity, radiation, and any other number of potentially lethal things to learn to respect them?

If you think that I ever accused anyone of putting their family in danger, perhaps you should go back and read the entire thread. Perhaps actually reading what was written would help. At NO POINT have I EVER suggested that people should feel free to keep a fire arm in their house. Quite the contrary sir. I only questioned the need to have an arsenal.

I truly wish that I did not find it so amusing that so many of you are so upset because I made a comment about not understanding why people feel the need to have large collections of guns. So, yeah, to answer your question... If you are gonna get all pissy and defensive because you decided that I've said something that I have not said...if you are going to start handing out insults because someone thinks differently than you do....if you are gonna play all macho about the subject....YEP! I will view you as a redneck.
 
M-Man ill let your oppinions slide cause your Jeeps nicer then mine. JK I see bot points of view, and I have "previously" :) had guns for protection and I live way out in the country. I also have had guns purely for the fun of shooting them. Guns arent toys but they can be fun...so I heard :)
 
LOL!!

That's probably the crux of the whole matter cobra...people have because they find them fun...or collect them....or just like to look at them...or like how they feel in their hands. I don't have to understand it. People don't understand why I like my old car, or my FSJ. That's cool...they don't have to like what I like.

It's the defensiveness about the subject that kills me. Anyway...once again, I'm sorry I made the comment. I'm sorry that I distracted from Jay's thread.
 
So Jay, you have a texas DL now? That is so cool!
 
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