Keeping Deer out of my garden

This one's for you Beej-ie boy:
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If you can get 6' close to them, then buy one of those humungous cans of pepper spray that has a 15' range.
It's not lethal, it will for sure get their attention, and it *should* only require one or two "applications" before they get the idea. Any laws against that?
 
People that encourage or even tolerate Deer in a residential area, are a quart low on oil. Garden full of ticks, tick mites, three dozen different kinds of parasites. Some of the parasites are really scarey. Tuberculosis, leptospirosis, mange, round worm and others that can be transmitted to humans, cats and dogs.
Skin it, gut it, cook it and freeze the left overs. Letting it feed where your kids play or your pets wander is just plain dumb.
Deer have something like 130 cronic diseases, most not often transmitted to humans, but there is alway the exceptions to that rule.
I don´t let it freak me out, but I do take precautions.
People that invite wildlife into there gardens are just asking for it. These back to nature idiots, that want to turn suburban areas into a wildlife garden of Eden, are gonna cause consequences, that last a lifetime for some people.
 
Ele fence is good but youned to have two fences. deer jump.
If you put a lower fence and I'm not sure the distance 3' or 4ft apart and make that fence as hing as you are allowed you said 6 foot something or other. the thing is they need running jump so the small fence if they jump that they wont have the room to jump the 2nd fence. you also dont need it all ele. If i was you i would do ele 10" then 8" then non ele then the top wire another 8 ". so you would have a fence that is 4 ft tall.
then the next one think of the hightb of the deer and think of where they would put their noses those areas should also have ele fence. the rest what ever you want even chicken wire. This is how we use to do this in game parks
in africa alos they are done here in the US. ele is good but deer jump.
About the pee and baby diapers and cut hair they work but just like black beers once they get use to it and it dosnt hurt they will walk right by it.
I was once xclearing a path in the bush up in Alaska and you would think the chain saw noises and two people talking would keep them away! well it did until they understand the noise isnt hurting them. so after a while hello call me mister black beer and your name is ?

double fencing is the best since you can put up a normally high deer fence like they do here to protect the apple orchard.
 
8Mud said:
People that encourage or even tolerate Deer in a residential area, are a quart low on oil. Garden full of ticks, tick mites, three dozen different kinds of parasites. Some of the parasites are really scarey. Tuberculosis, leptospirosis, mange, round worm and others that can be transmitted to humans, cats and dogs.
Skin it, gut it, cook it and freeze the left overs. Letting it feed where your kids play or your pets wander is just plain dumb.
Deer have something like 130 cronic diseases, most not often transmitted to humans, but there is alway the exceptions to that rule.
I don´t let it freak me out, but I do take precautions.
People that invite wildlife into there gardens are just asking for it. These back to nature idiots, that want to turn suburban areas into a wildlife garden of Eden, are gonna cause consequences, that last a lifetime for some people.
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The biggest "exception to the rule" here in New England is Lyme disease. Nasty. I've had it. Hot flashes, joint pains, memory loss...and the antibiotics will ream you right out. I got it in Connecticut, but it's spreading north.

I think any municipality that makes it impossible for you to exclude deer from your living space should be obligated either to remove them for you or to pay for the medical consequences of having them there.

I live in the country, and I like seeing deer in the back field and all; in fact I post my land, but this PETA crap is just ridiculous. What's next? The noble, misunderstood rat?
 
Matthew Currie said:
The biggest "exception to the rule" here in New England is Lyme disease. Nasty. I've had it. Hot flashes, joint pains, memory loss...and the antibiotics will ream you right out. I got it in Connecticut, but it's spreading north.

I think any municipality that makes it impossible for you to exclude deer from your living space should be obligated either to remove them for you or to pay for the medical consequences of having them there.

I live in the country, and I like seeing deer in the back field and all; in fact I post my land, but this PETA crap is just ridiculous. What's next? The noble, misunderstood rat?
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I have Malaria, dorment for the last fifteen-twenty years or so. People say so whats the problem, the problem is, if I ever need Chemo or immune suppression theropies, hello old friend.
Round worms can encapsulate for 15 years or more. Wonder what the future mothers of America would say about wildlife in suburban America, if they knew, that the same hormones that the mother produces during pregnancy, are what is used by the round worm to reproduce and then the eggs are passed on to a new host, through the breast milk.
Fox tape worm (or flat worm) is the next big plauge, microscopic tape worm that is endemic in Foxes, the eggs after the stool dries become airborn. You breath them in or eat them while picking Raspberries. Cats get Fox tape worm, hello cat box. People get Fox tape worm, settles in the liver and brain, no cure.
I usually spend at least a month every summer, planting what we call "wild islands". We plant them rarley any closer than a mile from habitation.
People can co-habitat with most wildlife, but at a reasonable distance. They have no need to share the same spaces as our children.
There is so much disinformation out there, that I sometimes wonder about the gullibilty of people. Wolves don´t attack people! (Cayote, Jackel, wild dog, Dingo are pretty much genetic clones of wolves, no real differences). The greatest mortaliy in Canus young, is hunger, the first year when they are learning to hunt. They will eat each other, if they are half mad from hunger. Do you really beleive they have a place in the same garden, with your three year old?
I could write a book about wildlife mis-information, wishfull thinking, propoganda and general B.S. The only reason wildlife fears man, is because they have been mans prey forever. and most often will loose there fear quickly or in a few short generations, if the fear isn´t reinforced.
Do you know the real reason there aren´t more Wild Boar attacks here in Germany? The reason is, the hunters are taught not to shoot the old sows, they train the young to be fearfull (or at the least cautious) around humans. Pig packs (yes they run in packs, pften up to twenty together), that have lost the lead sow and the elder sisters, often loose all fear of humans and cause a lot of trouble. In some parts of Berlin, they have learned to steal the groceries from old people, no chit. Pig muggings are common.
This back to nature, wildlife in the cities thing, is real crap and hopefully will be replaced with some other, flavor of the month movement and forgotten. Before real trouble developes.
This shoot them with darts, walk over and pick them up and relocate them crap, is mostly myth. Any narcotic that works quick enough, to drop an animal in minutes, is so dose/wieght dependant, that it most times doesn´t work, or kills the animal. The only one that really works, takes ten minutes or more to kick in (or two miles later) (and what they don´t show on TV) is the animal in convulsions for the first five or ten minutes, before it takes full affect. While the animal is in convulsions, if you aren´t there, to hold the tongue, the animal often swallows it and dies.
Many municipalities are gonna find out the hard way, they have to rethink there policies. Stop dreaming and get practical.
 
12 gauge shot gun with bird shot
 
Beej:

I worked for the UC Cooperative Extension on non-lethal and lethal forms of pest deterrence for a couple of years. One of the projects I worked on was the use of three different kinds of deterrence spray and four different kinds of urine to repel deer. The maximum efficacy of the repellents was 50%. The most effective urine you can procure is coyote urine. However, the different methods tried with fencing can help - bear in mind that deer can jump fences that are 10 feet high. However, they cannot judge the width of the fence if you augment the fence by angling it horizontally (so that the top portion is parallel to the ground) and will typically avoid jumping the fence. Dogs and human urine are completely ineffective over a period of time (believe it or not, deer do not recognize human urine as a danger.) Deer become acclimated to dogs and vice versa.

For more information, try a search on "integrated pest management." You'd be surprised at what people try (and some things are just darn funny.)
 
Tangle foot, increases the effectiveness of fences. Three, knee high wires, strung at 6, 9 and 12 feet from the fence. Helps keep them from getting a running start. You may have to tune up, your tangle foot, to get it to work the best. Just check out the tracks of Deer trying to make the jump and move the wires for best results. I´ve also used the large wire matts, thats used for concrete slab reinforcement. Comes in big (6'X8') sheets, I was using it to reinforce fences, the deer had beat down and/or worked there way under and discovered by accident, that laying it parallel to the ground at a about a one foot highth, actually works better. Works like tangle foot.
 
Sprinkle TOBASCO SAUCE around the parimeter... Seriosly, they dont like it and many other animals dont like the stuff either
 
XTrmXJ said:
Sprinkle TOBASCO SAUCE around the parimeter... Seriosly, they dont like it and many other animals dont like the stuff either
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Dude, it doesn't work for deer. We put straight capsaicin on walnut trees to determine its efficacy in repelling deer. They appeared to prefer it.
 
BMX01XJ said:
Maybe you should ask Jesus if he, himself will ask the deer to stay out of your garden.
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:laugh2: I've already been to Provo dressed in white to ask the Prophet himself; they met me with a clinical psychologist...

I don't know why I haven't tried your idea. He's right on my dashboard...
 
Take a pic of yourself naked and post it out there, it will work
 
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