Jeep Night in Greenwood, Indiana 4/6/05

indyjeepnut

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We are gathering in Greenwood, IN on April 6 at 5pm. To put a lift on McFly's XJ and drink a few beers I hope. This thread is a continuation of http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=51404.
I just want to put out a new thread to invite everyone who is able to attend. The address and phone number to the shop where we will be doing this is in the old thread. If anyone gets lost or can't find the shop my cell phone is 317-432-JEEP (5337)

Andy
 
Andy,

Could you repost the exact address to the shop for Wednesday night? I'll be there around 4pm-ish.

Who's all coming??? From the last thread, we had these people show interest:
* McFly
* My friend Woody
* IndyJeepNut
* Got Wood
* Jim (shop owner)
Dirk Pitt?
Lint?
Fuel90?
Digger?
IndyXJ?
 
Jim's address is

499 Wall St Suite D
Greenwood, IN 46143-7750
317-535-3330

Look for the following vehicles out front

85' purple Chevy (Jim's)
98 White Chevy (Mine)
88' XJ Woody (Got Wood's)

againsttherewil I would imigine that we will be there until around 11pm. So ya come on down.
 
i'll be there, but will only be able to stay around until a little after 8. wed nights are my basketball nights. i'll be there around 6, 6:30.

also, what is wall street by on 31? mapquest doesn't help too much.
 
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I think I can be there, but not sure what time yet. Also depends if you guys just need hard core Jeep techs or anyone who can turn a wrench etc?? I am in the advanced beginner stages of my abilities. I'll help where I can, but haven't touched an SYE, just seen it done.
 
Jim's shop is on the west side of 31 between Worthsville and Tracy.

Please post an RSVP if you are planning to attend. I am trying to get the owner of preformance off road to come down for a while. If anyone is needing parts.

Andy
 
I should be there, although I'm not sure how long I'll be able to stay.
 
Folks,

I'm leaving now for Greenwood - I should be there right @ 5pm. I got a cooler full of beer - Coors Light (right Andy?), Budweiser, and that new Budweiser E (energy drink for me lol, I'm a college student). I'll take care of everyone for dinner - maybe we'll get some pizza delivered, or a few buckets of KFC.

Andy,

I haven't been able to find any YJ front brake lines in Bloomington - could you call your local NAPA and see for me? I got cash to pay you back. I'm also gonna call your cell phone in case you don't read this message in the next hour and a half or so.

I can't wait to see everyone there!!! Thanks everyone in advance!

Oh - my cell phone is (812) 219-0852 in case anyone needs to get a hold of me.
 
I'm gonna make a new thread probably in the Modified Tech forum for other guys to see too, but here goes:

First off a big thanks to Andy (IndyJeepNut) who was crucial in helping me find a place to get the lift installed, picking up some brake lines for me, and ordering the pizza. :D Thanks to Jim, who I don't believe is a member of these forums, but he has a great transmission/transfer case shop where that's ALL he does and it's amazing. When I get my SYE/DS (hopefully next week), I'm going to only him to get it done right. Thanks to everyone else who showed up, grabbed a wrench or an air tool, and jumped right in. I'm not too familiar/comfortable with power tools, air tools, hydraulic lifts like Jim had, etc, but I didn't just stand back. They showed me what to press, what to use, and let me have a go at it! I really really learned a lot in just those 6 hours it took to install the lift (5pm-11pm).

"Quit sayin' thanks, where's the info!?!?" you might say. :)

THE LIFT!!! It came out to about 5.5 or 6" in the front, and about 6" or 6.5" in the rear. I added 3.5" RE springs to a 2" coil spacer and a 1.5" lift shackle. Rubicon Express definately under-states the actual lift on the day of the install. I'm gonna call it an even 6" of lift for now.

THE SHOCKS!!! Well, we succeeded in breaking all four upper rear bolts, and I'm not a fan of ripping into my carpet/cargo area with power tools. So I suggested we use go in from the little hole space in the unibody next to the shock mounts to put a bolt or nut in. With a little ingenuity and about 5-6 sets of eyes checking everything out, we drilled out the old bolts, put some new thicker ones in there, and that's all I have to say about that.

THE PROBLEMS!!! Not too many in fact. I only PB Blastered my bolts a few times in the past week (i know i should have more) but the front leaf spring bolts came out with a little heat and elbow grease. The coil springs on the front took the longest because there's no amazing way to compress the coil springs (even with axle droop, people pushing, etc) and then we had to wrestle them into rotating to the seat they needed to be on to tighten the retaining clips at the bottom. The rear upper shock bolts I mentioned in the above paragraph, but we spent more time thinking about it than doing - so it wasn't that bad.

Finally - THE VIBES!!! After the lift and we were back on solid ground, with everything tightened up, Got Wood (John) and I went out for a little test drive. There's moderate vibes up to about 30mph, then it lessens to only slight vibes. I was able to drive comfortably back to Bloomington (from Greenwood about an hour away) at 60mph on my speedometer, which was probably closer to 70mph - all @ 2000 rpm on cruise control. :D The most noticable problem is when I'm above 40mph, when I let off the gas, or start to brake, there's a definate grinding-ish noise coming from below the rear of my center console. I'm guessing that's the back of the transfer case. What could this be, and what would cause it to only happen above 40mph? U-joints binding? My friend said it could be the bearings in the transfer case?

So what's next???

1st and foremost - an adjustable trackbar. For starters, my front driver's side tire sticks out about 2" more than the front pass. side does. When squatting down and looking at the Jeep from the front, it's obvious that the springs are leaning toward the pass. side about 5-10 degrees, as well as the JKS Disconnects leaning the same. An adjustable trackbar should definately fix this problem. :) Thank you guys for taking the time to explain to me some of the logic and physics behind the trackbar, as well as the tierod/draglink and rear driveshaft. I know now WHAT to buy/order, and WHY it's important to do it soon. For example, if I had an alignment done tomorrow, it would be a waste of money, because I'd need to do one after I install the JKS adjustable trackbar.

So here's my list of what next "To Do" and in what order of priority:
*BECOME MEMBER OF NAXJA*
JKS Adjustable Trackbar
Alignment
AA SYE & HD Driveshaft
Correct Speedo Gear
Possible Shims

Future Mods for the Summer (not necessary immediately like those above):
Adjustable Upper & Lower Control Arms
Currie Bolt-On Tie Rod & Draglink with OME steering stabilizer
Brake Upgrade
Regear to 4.56 to get closer-to-stock gas mileage

I'll attach some pics in another post below. Oh yeah, I gotta tell my Dad I spent money for college on this lift/tires.
 
As soon as we got there, we went to work on the front:
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John (Got Wood) is the master of the coil spring - and the body piercing:
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Side by side, they don't seem like a 3.5" difference, but the new RE spring is MUCH stiffer:
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We cheated with the new springs to get them to fit:
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I wish my Jeep was really this high - I could fit 52" Michelins :D
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More people started showing up - here's my 33" next to Dirk Pitt's XJ:
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Simply AWESOME. XJ's represent!!!
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Fitting the rear springs, Jim and Dave find the rear eyes a good home:
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We managed the rear upper bolts going in from the top side (without cutting my cargo area) :)
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Putting the finishing touches on the Jeep, tightening all the bolts of course!
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The front, trimmed, with OME shocks, 3.5" lift springs, 2" coil spacers and 33" meats:
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It kinda looks like a duck or platypus - but I like it:
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Finished! I set the drivetrain to "Vibrate" and headed home!!! :D
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Note - These pictures were taken by IndyJeepNut and were used without his permission. ;)
 
McFly ... congratulations on getting your lift installed ... your Jeep looks good. Enjoy dialing it in and learning the finer arts of 4-wheeling.

Kudos to all the guys that helped you out ... nice work guys!

McFly ... now, I do not envy you having to justify to your DaD spending your college money on your Jeep. I have no clue as to your family's financial situation, so hopefully it will not affect your educational goals. Good Luck ...

Les
 
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