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Meaning of Flag Draped Coffin
All Americans should be given this lesson. Those who think that America is an arrogant nation should really reconsider that thought. Our founding fathers used GOD's word and teachings to establish our Great Nation and I think it's high time Americans get re-educated about this Nation's history. Pass it along and be proud of the country we live in and even more proud of those who serve to protect our "GOD GIVEN" rights and freedoms.

I hope you take the time to read this..... To understand what the flag draped coffin really means..... Here is how to understand the flag that laid upon it and is surrendered to so many widows and widowers.
Do you know that at military funerals, the 21-gun salute stands for the sum of the numbers in the year 1776?

Have you ever noticed the honor guard pays meticulous attention to correctly folding the United States of America Flag 13 times? You probably thought it was to symbolize the original 13 colonies, but we learn something new every day!
The 1st fold of the flag is a symbol of life.
The 2nd fold is a symbol of the belief in eternal life.
The 3rd fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veterans departing the ranks who gave a portion of their lives for the defense of the country to attain peace throughout the world.

The 4th fold represents the weaker nature, for as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him w e turn in times of peace as well as in time of war for His divine guidance

The 5th fold is a tribute to the country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, "Our Country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right; but it is still our country, right or wrong."

The 6th fold is for where people's hearts lie. It is with their heart that They pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States Of America , and the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
The 7th fold is a tribute to its Armed Forces, for it is through the Armed Forces that they protect their country and their flag against all her enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of their republic.

The 8th fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day.

The 9th fold is a tribute to womanhood, and Mothers. For it has been through their faith, their love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great has been molded.
The 10th fold is a tribute to the father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of their country since they were first born.

The 11th fold represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies in the Hebrews eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The 12th fold represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in the Christians eyes, God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit.

The 13th fold, or when the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost reminding them of their nations motto, "In God We Trust."

After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it takes on the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under General George Washington, and the Sailors and Marines who served under Captain John Paul Jones, who were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the Armed Forces of the United States, preserving for them the rights, privileges and freedoms they enjoy today.
There are some traditions and ways of doing things that have deep meaning. In the future, you'll see flags folded and now you will know why.
< BR>Share this with the children you love and all others who love what is referred to, the symbol of " Liberty and Freedom."

MAYBE THE SUPREME COURT SHOULD READ THIS EXPLANATION BEFORE THEY RENDER THEIR DECISION ON THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. FORWARD IT; MAYBE SOMEONE WITH THE NECESSARY POWER, OR POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL INFLUENCE, WILL GET IT TO THEM.
IN THE MEANTIME, MAY GOD PROTECT US ALWAYS.
ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. :us:
 
Quite a nice explanation there! I've been to the US a couple of times, and I'm always amazed at the pride and patriotism that gets displayed. Being in the military myself, I had the privilege of visiting Arlington Cemetary and watching a reef laying ceremony to honour fallen soldiers. I had goosebumps from the honour and pride that the soldiers partaking in the ceremony displayed. Wish that kind of pride was evident here in South Africa with our people.
 
... and thus continues the facination with imaginary beings having an influence on reality.

Why is it so difficult to believe you can be Patriotic, a Veteran and NOT give two shits about god?

Good thing the US Army recognizes and allows Wiccan and Pagan observations...

Nice way to further a religious agenda under the guise of patriotism...

MAYBE THE SUPREME COURT SHOULD READ THIS EXPLANATION BEFORE THEY RENDER THEIR DECISION ON THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. FORWARD IT; MAYBE SOMEONE WITH THE NECESSARY POWER, OR POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL INFLUENCE, WILL GET IT TO THEM.
IN THE MEANTIME, MAY GOD PROTECT US ALWAYS.
ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

weak.
 
r/c-pilot said:
Meaning of Flag Draped Coffin
All Americans should be given this lesson. Those who think that America is an arrogant nation should really reconsider that thought. Our founding fathers used GOD's word and teachings to establish our Great Nation and I think it's high time Americans get re-educated about this Nation's history. Pass it along and be proud of the country we live in and even more proud of those who serve to protect our "GOD GIVEN" rights and freedoms.

Dude, just knock it off. You give the rest of us Christians a bad name by talking down to others. Live and let live.

I hope you take the time to read this..... To understand what the flag draped coffin really means..... Here is how to understand the flag that laid upon it and is surrendered to so many widows and widowers.
Do you know that at military funerals, the 21-gun salute stands for the sum of the numbers in the year 1776?

Wrong, dumbass. It has to due with ship based versus land based arty. Get your facts straight.

Have you ever noticed the honor guard pays meticulous attention to correctly folding the United States of America Flag 13 times? You probably thought it was to symbolize the original 13 colonies, but we learn something new every day!
The 1st fold of the flag is a symbol of life.
The 2nd fold is a symbol of the belief in eternal life.
The 3rd fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veterans departing the ranks who gave a portion of their lives for the defense of the country to attain peace throughout the world.

0-2 so far, retard.

The 4th fold represents the weaker nature, for as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him w e turn in times of peace as well as in time of war for His divine guidance

The 5th fold is a tribute to the country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, "Our Country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right; but it is still our country, right or wrong."

The 6th fold is for where people's hearts lie. It is with their heart that They pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States Of America , and the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
The 7th fold is a tribute to its Armed Forces, for it is through the Armed Forces that they protect their country and their flag against all her enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of their republic.

The 8th fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day.

The 9th fold is a tribute to womanhood, and Mothers. For it has been through their faith, their love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great has been molded.
The 10th fold is a tribute to the father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of their country since they were first born.

The 11th fold represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies in the Hebrews eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The 12th fold represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in the Christians eyes, God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit.

The 13th fold, or when the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost reminding them of their nations motto, "In God We Trust."

After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it takes on the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under General George Washington, and the Sailors and Marines who served under Captain John Paul Jones, who were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the Armed Forces of the United States, preserving for them the rights, privileges and freedoms they enjoy today.
There are some traditions and ways of doing things that have deep meaning. In the future, you'll see flags folded and now you will know why.
< BR>Share this with the children you love and all others who love what is referred to, the symbol of " Liberty and Freedom."

MAYBE THE SUPREME COURT SHOULD READ THIS EXPLANATION BEFORE THEY RENDER THEIR DECISION ON THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. FORWARD IT; MAYBE SOMEONE WITH THE NECESSARY POWER, OR POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL INFLUENCE, WILL GET IT TO THEM.
IN THE MEANTIME, MAY GOD PROTECT US ALWAYS.
ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. :us:

Try researching before you post.
 
Fergie said:
You give the rest of us Christians a bad name by talking down to others.....

Wrong, dumbass.

0-2 so far, retard.

Great stuff!

:gee:
 
Morty'sXJ said:
Seems to be about as much info FOR this legend as AGAINST. A quick google search pulls up tons of interesting websites:

Some that seem to support the legend:
http://legion.org/?section=our_flag&subsection=flag_folding&content=flag_symbols

http://www.usflag.org/foldflag.html

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/more/folds.htm

And some that don't:

http://www.snopes.com/military/flagfold.htm

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/foldsoftheflag.htm

Draw your own conclusions... :dunno:

The first link provides no references. The second provides a link to the Air Force Academy. The third, with a little extra clicking, leads to a statement containing the following: "Individuals who hear those scripts end up attributing the contents of the script to the U.S. Air Force. But the reality is that neither Congress, nor federal laws related to the flag, assign any special meaning to the individual folds."

The last two provide results of actual research. Score here is 0-2.
 
XJ Dreamin' said:
The first link provides no references. The second provides a link to the Air Force Academy. The third, with a little extra clicking, leads to a statement containing the following: "Individuals who hear those scripts end up attributing the contents of the script to the U.S. Air Force. But the reality is that neither Congress, nor federal laws related to the flag, assign any special meaning to the individual folds."

The last two provide results of actual research. Score here is 0-2.

Didn't know we were keepin score... i'll leave this to the "expert" researchers and just get back to work
 
Morty'sXJ said:
...get back to work

Doh! I need to do some of that, myself :D
 
What a steaming load of shit.

I had only read three or four lines before I pulled up another browser to start researching; sure enough, I found countless websites refuting the 21-gun salute "information" provided in this thread. The rest was even dumber.

Then I scrolled down and saw you guys had beat me to it. :) This is why you shouldn't just forward stuff you get in your e-mail before doing at least a minimum of investigation yourself.

Gil BullyKatz said:
Why is it so difficult to believe you can be Patriotic, a Veteran and NOT give two shits about god?
x2.

-----Matt-----
 
I am so very sorry I angered the forum gods. I didn't realize that where my info came was incorrect and that your info was fact. My posting was (or so I thought) just interesting reading, no other intent. Very sorry I've angered you, won't happen again.
 
Gil BullyKatz said:
Why is it so difficult to believe you can be Patriotic, a Veteran and NOT give two shits about god?

Good thing the US Army recognizes and allows Wiccan and Pagan observations...

Too bad the VA doesn't, have you seen the news about the wife trying to get the VA to allow the wiccan symbol on her dead husband's military gravestone?

http://www.cem.va.gov/cem/hm/hmemb.asp

There is a symbol for atheists.
 
I use dude in my sentances all the time, that in no way makes you a wigger. If anything more Hippies use dude than wiggers. Wiggers use the word that their name is based off of, starting with a N.
 
Sorry, tossing this one. The racial undertones are just not cool.
 
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