jeeperjohn
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Temecula, CA
I'd be looking for an attorney.
Input on The Union
- Thread starter InlandZJ
- Start date
I'm way ahead of you on this matter. The day after I have been throwing the thought out to my mother which works for a law firm in the oc. So she is looking into this for me. There was a guy that spoke up in meetings and asked question about rules and regulation and about 6 months ago he was fired for no seat belt doing his paper work while sitting on the lift. I think he was persueing this as well. Well this has taken off since i no longer work there. The employees are takeing this to a high level. The temps and management are not allowed to vote. As we know they will dust the temps quick. They were also told not to talk to me. Pretty sad.some of the workers were really nice and hard working. They also hired a guy that spoke spanish and knowing this. They then told him he could not speak spanish. This is the kind of Blank that is wrong .This is how he communicates with us. Hard worker by the way. I look forward to see how this plays out. Mean while I need to get back in the feild the bills will keep comming.
zr2toxj
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Leeds, Maine
IMHO, the biggest mistake people make is lumping all unions into one group and making statements about "unions" in general. It's like me saying I had a bad meal, so I don't like food anymore.
I've been a member of IBEW local 1253 for over 20 years. We are a construction local for Inside wiremen and Telecom.
The only union I can comment about and be accurate about is my own. Period.
For the last 8 yrs I've been the training director, helping people qualify for the apprenticeship. It's the best way to learn a trade and you get paid while doing so. No tuition, go to school at night and work during the day. It's not just a union concept either, apprenticeship has proven to be the best way to learn because of the OJT factor.
Our local works very hard with our contractors. We know without them we wouldn't be here. We've put on training for estimating, foreman training and offered a lot of special training to our journeymen so our contractors can expand their market. Photovoltaics certification (NABCEP) and Instrumentation certifications are just a couple.
Is the IBEW perfect? Hell no, recently I've not been very happy with some of the things they are doing, but the benfits far outweigh the minor issues.
If a member is causing problems or has poor performance on the jobsite, they are not 'protected'. Usually the Business Manager will contact them, explain the contractors' complaint and tell them they must explain their lack of professionalism to the executive board.
We are also being succesful with incentives on projects, where we offer reduced rates so the contractor can get the bid. If we complete the project ahead of schedule, the members get bonuses that bring them up to their full scale wages. Everyone wins when that happens.
The point is there is a lot of misinformation and misconception out there; some of it is warranted, I must admit, but there are many locals out there doing right by their employers as well as the members.
So do your own research on individual locals and make your own conclusion, don't jump to it based on what someone else told you.
Signed,
Union thug :laugh:
I've been a member of IBEW local 1253 for over 20 years. We are a construction local for Inside wiremen and Telecom.
The only union I can comment about and be accurate about is my own. Period.
For the last 8 yrs I've been the training director, helping people qualify for the apprenticeship. It's the best way to learn a trade and you get paid while doing so. No tuition, go to school at night and work during the day. It's not just a union concept either, apprenticeship has proven to be the best way to learn because of the OJT factor.
Our local works very hard with our contractors. We know without them we wouldn't be here. We've put on training for estimating, foreman training and offered a lot of special training to our journeymen so our contractors can expand their market. Photovoltaics certification (NABCEP) and Instrumentation certifications are just a couple.
Is the IBEW perfect? Hell no, recently I've not been very happy with some of the things they are doing, but the benfits far outweigh the minor issues.
If a member is causing problems or has poor performance on the jobsite, they are not 'protected'. Usually the Business Manager will contact them, explain the contractors' complaint and tell them they must explain their lack of professionalism to the executive board.
We are also being succesful with incentives on projects, where we offer reduced rates so the contractor can get the bid. If we complete the project ahead of schedule, the members get bonuses that bring them up to their full scale wages. Everyone wins when that happens.
The point is there is a lot of misinformation and misconception out there; some of it is warranted, I must admit, but there are many locals out there doing right by their employers as well as the members.
So do your own research on individual locals and make your own conclusion, don't jump to it based on what someone else told you.
Signed,
Union thug :laugh:
- Location
- Rainy side of Washington
I uh... um... buh... huh... WHAT are you trying to say??????????
:huh:
My take on unions is that some of them are good... some outlived their purpose long ago. Most were needed back when they were created, when employers were actively screwing the employees, but many simply stonewall and demand as much as they possibly can at every turn today.
