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GoSlowGetStuck said:
Coils off of a V6 Cougar. We got about about 3.5" out of them. We just drilled out the strut plates on top and J-bolted them to the coils. I will admit that it rides very nice, certainly nothing to complain about for $20 at the junk yard and under $10 on bolts and a hole saw.
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sounds like a plan stan. now i can spend all the money i saved on beer!
 
bmyohn said:
Wanna come negotiate for me Dan? I am absolutely the worst negotiator in the world.
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Well no need to negotiate anymore.....


I went back to look at the XJ while the salesman were gone, and since the hood doesn't close I took a better look at the motor. I opened up the raidator cap and its all rusty and grity. Same symptoms my 01 XJ had. So it has a cracked head or at the very minimum a blown head gasket.

So I can either pass up on this jeep, or tell them what I found throw them a dirt cheap offer and tear down the motor and build a "low-buck" stroker out of it.
 
bmyohn said:
Well no need to negotiate anymore.....


I went back to look at the XJ while the salesman were gone, and since the hood doesn't close I took a better look at the motor. I opened up the raidator cap and its all rusty and grity. Same symptoms my 01 XJ had. So it has a cracked head or at the very minimum a blown head gasket.

So I can either pass up on this jeep, or tell them what I found throw them a dirt cheap offer and tear down the motor and build a "low-buck" stroker out of it.
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Walk away! They will still ask too much. They obviously think you are some stupid kid! You are, but that's beside the point! :D
 
If you were to tell them they'd be more likely to wholesale the problem. I'd wait to see if it sells and if not throw them $1k and don't budge. Its worth that with a bad motor. Remember a boned out xj is worth $200 at the scrap yard. You can part out misc parts for at least another $200 leaving you with a lot of parts you need for $600
 
Fore Wheeler said:
If you were to tell them they'd be more likely to wholesale the problem. I'd wait to see if it sells and if not throw them $1k and don't budge. Its worth that with a bad motor. Remember a boned out xj is worth $200 at the scrap yard. You can part out misc parts for at least another $200 leaving you with a lot of parts you need for $600
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But what if I were to go back there before they sent it off to auction, showed the salesman what I found and still kept my offer in the $1,000 to $1,200 range. They'd be crazy not to take that if they knew about the cracked head/blown head gasket right?
 
bmyohn said:
But what if I were to go back there before they sent it off to auction, showed the salesman what I found and still kept my offer in the $1,000 to $1,200 range. They'd be crazy not to take that if they knew about the cracked head/blown head gasket right?
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I think so...unless they want to try to sell it at auction without disclosure (hopefully not).

The salesman prob won't believe you...will have to drag a decent mechanic out there.
 
What do you think the chances are that the bidders will find the problem at auction?
 
my failed deal on the built full widths was not such a fail afterall...it was a pass side drop...I stumbled across another listing the guy has posted on them and had a pic...probably still well worth the price due to the parts, but would still have to get a new DS drop housing and gears set up etc.
 
bmyohn said:
But what if I were to go back there before they sent it off to auction, showed the salesman what I found and still kept my offer in the $1,000 to $1,200 range. They'd be crazy not to take that if they knew about the cracked head/blown head gasket right?
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Not if they think they can get more at auction

Pat said:
I think so...unless they want to try to sell it at auction without disclosure (hopefully not).

The salesman prob won't believe you...will have to drag a decent mechanic out there.
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They would, auctions are buyer beware and the dealer would just say they didn't know.

ChiXJeff said:
What do you think the chances are that the bidders will find the problem at auction?
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slim to none, especially since most of those auctions have very limited access to te vehicles before they're actually on the block, some are sight unseen with just a lot number and general description.
 
XJ&CHZ4ME said:
my failed deal on the built full widths was not such a fail afterall...it was a pass side drop...I stumbled across another listing the guy has posted on them and had a pic...probably still well worth the price due to the parts, but would still have to get a new DS drop housing and gears set up etc.
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Or run a dana 300.......they work good.
 
now you guys have me rethinking what I am wanting to do..and this is a good thing!! :D
 
They can claim stupid. There are no 'stupid disclosures' at an auto auction.

Its a gamble, point it out and give them a chance to do the right thing and sell it to you knowing your okay with it, or they prob will still be used car dealers and try to pass the problem if they can.

Don't act too eager to buy. Prepare to turn your back, they really hate watching money walk off their lot.
 
Fore Wheeler said:
They can claim stupid. There are no 'stupid disclosures' at an auto auction.

Its a gamble, point it out and give them a chance to do the right thing and sell it to you knowing your okay with it, or they prob will still be used car dealers and try to pass the problem if they can.

Don't act too eager to buy. Prepare to turn your back, they really hate watching money walk off their lot.
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Thats what I actually just tried. I told them what I found, told them that I would still offer $1,200 for the Jeep (cash in hand, blah blah blah), they still said no.

I then asked the sales rep who contacted me why he got a hold of me if he knew how much the Jeep was and my ad said I only had $1,000 to spend. His excuse was that he didn't know how much they wanted for the Jeep when he texted me (I call BS on that one).

I told him that when it comes back from auction to call me and I would be prepared to make him an offer again, but a much lower offer at that. he said he would call but I'm not holding my breath
 
bmyohn said:
Thats what I actually just tried. I told them what I found, told them that I would still offer $1,200 for the Jeep (cash in hand, blah blah blah), they still said no.

I then asked the sales rep who contacted me why he got a hold of me if he knew how much the Jeep was and my ad said I only had $1,000 to spend. His excuse was that he didn't know how much they wanted for the Jeep when he texted me (I call BS on that one).

I told him that when it comes back from auction to call me and I would be prepared to make him an offer again, but a much lower offer at that. he said he would call but I'm not holding my breath
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did anyone other than the sales rep get involved?

he called you because he thought you might bump your budget. people do it all the time once they get on the lot.
 
I am free from that blasted blackberry! Android OS FTW! :yelclap:
 
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