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In Indiana for trucks its 30 inches to the bottom of the bumper both front and rear...

and finding an Officer to enforce it is another thing...

mac 'the front end of the xjbuggypopcan passes' gyvr
 
In Indiana just about any rattletrap vehicle can be on the road as long as it has current plates.

Trust me, I live in Knox County :D


There are plenty in Bartholomew, Brown, Jackson, and Jennings counties too! :D
 
Finished up my Xmas shopping today.
Went ahead and ordered a 360 and COD 5 for me while I was at it. :D
Hopefully be here next week.:clap:
 
625 ILCS 5/12‑607.1) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 12‑607.1)
Sec. 12‑607.1. Frame and floor height. (a) No person shall operate upon a highway a first division vehicle which has a clearance between the frame and ground in excess of 22 inches. The lowest portion of the body floor shall not be more than 4 inches above the top of the frame. No such vehicle shall be modified to cause the vehicle body or chassis to come in contact with the ground, expose the fuel tank to damage from collision or cause the wheels to come in contact with the body under normal operation.
(b) No person shall operate upon a highway a second division vehicle which has a clearance between the frame and ground which is in excess of the limits specified within this subsection for its gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) category. For the purpose of this section, GVWR means the manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating whether or not the vehicle is modified by the use of parts not originally installed by the manufacturer. The stacking or attaching of vehicle frames (one frame on top of or beneath another frame) is prohibited. No portion of the body floor shall be raised above the frame.
(1) The frame height of second division vehicles, whose GVWR is under 4,500 pounds, shall be no more than 24 inches.
(2) The frame height of second division vehicles, whose GVWR is more than 4,500 pounds and less than 7,500 pounds, shall be no more than 26 inches.
(3) The frame height of second division vehicles, whose GVWR is more than 7,500 pounds and less than 10,000 pounds, shall be no more than 28 inches.
(c) Under subsections (a) or (b) of this Section, measurements shall be made when a vehicle is unladen on a level surface at the lowest point from the bottom of the original vehicle manufacturer's longitudinal frame rail between the front axle and second axle on the vehicle.
(d) This Section does not apply to specially designed or modified motor vehicles when operated off the highways. Such motor vehicles may be transported upon the highway only by use of a trailer or semitrailer. The specially designed or modified motor vehicle may also be transported upon another vehicle, providing that the entire weight of the specifically designed or modified vehicle is resting upon the transporting vehicle.
(e) Any violation of this Section is a Class C misdemeanor. A second conviction under this Section shall be punished with a fine of not less than $500. An officer making an arrest under this Section shall order the vehicle driver to remove the vehicle from the highway. A person convicted under this Section shall be ordered to bring his vehicle into compliance with this Section.
(Source: P.A. 90‑89, eff. 1‑1‑98.)
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K12-607.1.htm
(625 ILCS 5/12‑608) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 12‑608)
Sec. 12‑608. Bumpers.
(a) It shall be unlawful to operate any motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 9,000 pounds or less or any motor vehicle registered as a recreational vehicle under this Code on any highway of this State unless such motor vehicle is equipped with both a front and rear bumper.
Except as indicated below, maximum bumper heights of such motor vehicles shall be determined by weight category of gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) measured from a level surface to the highest point of the bottom of the bumper when the vehicle is unloaded and the tires are inflated to the manufacturer's recommended pressure.
Maximum bumper heights are as follows:
Maximum FrontMaximum RearBumper heightBumper HeightAll motor vehicles of the first division except multipurpose passenger vehicles:22 inches22 inchesMultipurpose passenger vehiclesand all other motor vehicles: 4,500 lbs. and under GVWR24 inches26 inches 4,501 lbs. through 7,500 lbs. GVWR27 inches29 inches 7,501 lbs. through 9,000 lbs. GVWR28 inches30 inches It is unlawful to operate upon any highway of this State any vehicle with a front bumper height that exceeds 28 inches or a rear bumper height that exceeds 30 inches, regardless of the GVWR of the vehicle, except those vehicles covered by Chapter 18b of this Code.
For any vehicle with bumpers or attaching components which have been modified or altered from the original manufacturer's design in order to conform with the maximum bumper requirements of this section, the bumper height shall be measured from a level surface to the bottom of the vehicle frame rail at the most forward and rearward points of the frame rail. The bumper on any vehicle so modified or altered shall be at least 4.5 inches in vertical height and extend no less than the width of the respective wheel tracks outermost distance.
However, nothing in this Section shall prevent the installation of bumper guards.
(b) This Section shall not apply to street rods, custom vehicles, motor vehicles designed or modified primarily for off‑highway purposes while such vehicles are in tow or to motorcycles or motor driven cycles, nor to motor vehicles registered as antique vehicles when the original design of such antique vehicles did not include bumpers. The provisions of this Section shall not apply to any motor vehicle driven during the first 1000 recorded miles of that vehicle, when such vehicle is owned or operated by a manufacturer, dealer or transporter displaying a special plate or plates as described in Chapter 3 of this Code while such vehicle is (1) being delivered from the manufacturing or assembly plant directly to the purchasing dealer or distributor, or from one dealership or distributor to another; (2) being moved by the most direct route from one location to another for the purpose of installing special bodies or equipment; or (3) being driven for purposes of demonstration by a prospective buyer with the dealer or his agent present in the cab of the vehicle during the demonstration.
The dealer shall, prior to the receipt of any deposit made or any contract signed by the buyer to secure the purchase of a vehicle, inform such buyer, by written statement signed by the purchaser to indicate acknowledgement of the contents thereof, of the legal requirements of this Section regarding front and rear bumpers if such vehicle is not to be equipped with bumpers at the time of delivery.
(c) Any violation of this Section is a Class C misdemeanor. A second conviction under this Section shall be punishable with a fine of not less than $500. An officer making an arrest under this Section shall order the vehicle driver to remove the vehicle from the highway. A person convicted under this Section shall be ordered to bring his vehicle into compliance with this Section.
(Source: P.A. 92‑668, eff. 1‑1‑03; 93‑702, eff. 7‑9‑04.)

Looks like 22" frame and bumper for na XJ, with normal plates.

Rev
 
Finished up my Xmas shopping today.
Went ahead and ordered a 360 and COD 5 for me while I was at it. :D
Hopefully be here next week.:clap:

Gotta send mine in and get it fixed. The damn disc drive won't read anything!:bawl:
 
Finished up my Xmas shopping today.
Went ahead and ordered a 360 and COD 5 for me while I was at it. :D
Hopefully be here next week.:clap:

Wish I could say that.. I have started though... Waiting on the deals!!!!!

I'am glad I waited on ordering from Summit . They sent me a 25.00 off my next order over 100.00.. That will make the engine oil cooler kit from them a great deal..

Happy Thanksgiving

Nick
 
Any of you BIG dogs want to get in your wives Camry, & join the M&G in DesMoines, Iowa?
 
Gotta send mine in and get it fixed. The damn disc drive won't read anything!:bawl:


Get that thing fixed so I can school you on COD5. [/smacktalk]
 
In Indiana just about any rattletrap vehicle can be on the road as long as it has current plates.

Trust me, I live in Knox County :D
Ditto that ...

I drive my junk on the road here in Indiana. :eyes:

Les
 
Brianho and Adam(our India traveling brothers): You guys here in the states right?
 
Maximum bumper heights are as follows:
All motor vehicles of the first division except multipurpose passenger vehicles: 22 inches front, 22 inches rear

Multipurpose passenger vehicles and all other motor vehicles:
4,500 lbs. and under 24 inches front, 26 inches rear
4,501 through 7,500 lbs. 27 inches front, 29 inches rear
7,501 through 9,000 lbs. 28 inches front. 30 inches rear

Looks like 22" frame and bumper for na XJ, with normal plates.

Rev

I don't know how Illinois defines "multipurpose vehicle," but in Ohio:
"Multipurpose vehicle: any motor vehicle designed to carry ten or less, either on a truck frame, or with special features for offroad operation." - OAC 4501-43-02

I'm also unsure what you mean about "normal plates," or if/how you'd get "multipurpose plates," but with a 4850# GVWR, you'd be good for 27" and 29", same as Ohio.

Which, conveniently, is exactly where an XJ sits on 5" lift and 35s... :D

Robert

Edit: By the way, editing that post gave me a hell of a headache... :puke:
 
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I don't know how Illinois defines "multipurpose vehicle," but in Ohio:
"Multipurpose vehicle: any motor vehicle designed to carry ten or less, either on a truck frame, or with special features for offroad operation." - OAC 4501-43-02

I'm also unsure what you mean about "normal plates," or if/how you'd get "multipurpose plates," but with a 4850# GVWR, you'd be good for 27" and 29", same as Ohio.

Which, conveniently, is exactly where an XJ sits on 5" lift and 35s... :D

Robert

Edit: By the way, editing that post gave me a hell of a headache... :puke:

I got pulled over in the raffle jeep on the way to the title office (!) and the nice ohio state patrolman was kind enough to explain the law to me. The sticker inside the door says 4800 lbs, so the limit was 27/29.

Then he measured me at 31/34. Let me go because I told him it was getting lowered and the only reason it was off the trailer was for the out of state title inspection.

Put new springs in tuesday night and dropped it 3 inches or so, so it's probably pretty close to legal now. Not that the rednecks in North Carolina care anyways :looney:
 
I have yet to go talk to them but I most likely just pay the fine and not argue it this time.


I asked originally 'cause during my door/no door/what really makes a door a door ordeal with the local police, the DOT officer said that I was able to use the second division rules because I ran a B-truck plate on my XJ rather than a car plate.
 
Yup, we are here, Adam is heading to southern India on Thursday though.....
Is that wise right now? The last thing I want to do is hold a special election to fill his BOD position.:D
 
turns out on 7.3 powerstrokes the glow plugs are under the freggin valve covers, which you pretty much have to take everything out of the engine bay to get to.....awesome.
 
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