alright...i may need to judy chop someone as well. bought that miller welder a few weeks ago and the guy had a gas bottle to go with it. when i went to the shop, he told me that his buddy needed the bottle and he would get it for me in a few days...now its been almost a month and i've texted him about once or twice a week since and he keeps giving me stories about how he hasn't had time to go get it because he is moving and that his business has been busy and blah, blah blah. i cut the guy some slack at first, now im pissed. i have a big fat roll of solid core wire all ready to go, and i dont want to go waste money on a gas bottle or a roll of flux core since the bottle was included in the sale. im ready to tell the guy that he either needs to get the bottle or refund part of my money so i can go pick one up myself. i never should have given him all the money up front, and i realize that now...but im an honest guy and i give people the benefit of the doubt. i know where the guys shop is and im ready to just go there and tell the guy to tell me where the damn tank is so that i can go pick it up myself.