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MisterFubar

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So I've been throwing around the idea of getting rid of my wheeler project.

A little background. It's a 76 IH Scout that I bought in 2000. I built a fairly strong IH 345($$$) for it, rewired it and put an updated dash in, put a spring lift and 33's on it. The motor only had about 15 miles on it when I had to park it in a field for 18 months while I took a government sponsored vacation.

Fast forward 18 months. It took some work to get it drivable again and some of the bugs worked out after sitting in a field but I finally got it going again. Still running on the 33's but I swapped out my original Dana 44's for another set of D44's that were locked and had discs on the rear. After getting the new axles in and some other minor work done it I end up going on another vacation... this one was only 14 months.

During that vacation I went bench-building crazy and came up with some big plans for it and went on a part ordering frenzy. Ended up with a Dana 60 for the front and a 14 bolt for the rear, beadlocks, twin t-cases, fuel injection... the list goes on and on. Finally back home again I get my axles all built up, and start installing them and I find some major body rot, the only thing holding the floors together is the rhino-liner a previous owner had put down. No biggie, I pull the cage and start cutting the floors out. I ended up selling the cage because I planned on building a better one anyway.

Now it's about a year since I have worked on it, I've got a 5 month old daughter and it's sitting in the garage with no front axle, no floors or body mounts, and no fuel or ignition system. I really just don't have the desire to finish it, I know I'll lose my ass money wise if I part it now but I don't really care about that. I realized it's not really practical for what I need. It handled all the wheeling I ever did with the Dana 44's and 33" tires and I never broke anything, I had big plans to get out of the Midwest and go on some good wheeling trips but I have no desire to drive the thing across the country and I'm not going to buy a big truck just to tow it twice a year. Besides, I like wheeling for the scenery and a lot of what I would want to see or do in Moab or Colorado can be done in a rental Jeep.

So now I'm sitting here thinking I should just part/scrap the thing out. I know I'll make some decent coin back on the axles, and I already have a buyer lined up for the motor. I'm trying to think of any reasons to not do it, and the only thing I come up with is a little bit of sentimental value, and the fact that I have boxes and boxes of spare IH parts. I'm not sure if I want to deal with the hassle of selling them, and I won't throw/give away stuff I know is worth money.

So do I get rid of it and buy another stock IH for weekend drives and mild wheeling?

Do I get rid of it and throw a couple grand at my XJ and make it a little more wheelable?

Or do I man up, get my panties out of a wad and keep throwing money at it to get the stupid thing driving again?
 
How likely is it you're going to get deployed again (or reactivated? I take it that's what you meant by "government sponsored vacation" - in Saddam's Sandbox...)

Frankly, I'd want to get it going again just because it's an IHC. However, if you decide to part with the thing, do you have manuals for it? I've been looking for specs on IHC engines, and I'm not having much luck - if you've got manuals (especially FSM!) I really want to talk to you about them...

Then again, I've got something of a reputation for taking on difficult or impossible jobs ("The difficult we do right away. The impossible by appointment")
 
if it were me I would finish the project as a kind of F-off to the gov't which is apparently conspiring against you

:wantyou: to finish it

doug
 
5-90 said:
How likely is it you're going to get deployed again (or reactivated? I take it that's what you meant by "government sponsored vacation" - in Saddam's Sandbox...)
I'm sure I'll get deployed again eventually, I've got another 32 years before I'll retire. :tears: I'm actually throwing around the idea of volunteering for a trip at the end of this year because the timing works out for me.

5-90 said:
Frankly, I'd want to get it going again just because it's an IHC. However, if you decide to part with the thing, do you have manuals for it? I've been looking for specs on IHC engines, and I'm not having much luck - if you've got manuals (especially FSM!) I really want to talk to you about them...
I do have a full service manual for it, but the manual doesn't really apply to it anymore. The motor/trans is original as is the frame and some of the body, but the entire electrical system, fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and wiring is modified or replaced with newer/better.

5-90 said:
Then again, I've got something of a reputation for taking on difficult or impossible jobs ("The difficult we do right away. The impossible by appointment")
The biggest problem is that all the work that needs to be done on it is stuff that I loathe doing, I hate bodywork, I hate metalfab, and I'm really not the best welder.
 
Gerr said:
You wont be happy just letting it go, build it wheel it and enjoy it till you are done with it then let some other lucky soul use it scouts are hard to come by.

The only thing left that is a Scout is the body and frame, and Scout bodys and frames that are in the shape mine is are really easy to come by... I see them all the time in fields for free or 100 bucks.
 
H8PVMT said:
if it were me I would finish the project as a kind of F-off to the gov't which is apparently conspiring against you

:wantyou: to finish it

doug

Heh, I'd like to say that they are consipring against me, but I'm the idiot that keeps volunteering :roflmao:
 
if you have the parts id say finish it. youll be sad when its gone and eventually start dumping money into your xj after a while anyway, and realizing the scout was a better rig to start with due to the fully boxed frame, v8, no smog, topless, and your dual cases. plus youll feel really safe about axle breakage with the 14b and dana 60 axles mashing that gas pedal along with that top off whereas with the dana 30 , even fairly built up, youll be afraid to break stuff and be boxed tightly inside the jeep. i love my xj, but i really miss my scout alot ....
 
blondejoncherokee said:
if you have the parts id say finish it. youll be sad when its gone and eventually start dumping money into your xj after a while anyway, and realizing the scout was a better rig to start with due to the fully boxed frame, v8, no smog, topless, and your dual cases. plus youll feel really safe about axle breakage with the 14b and dana 60 axles mashing that gas pedal along with that top off whereas with the dana 30 , even fairly built up, youll be afraid to break stuff and be boxed tightly inside the jeep. i love my xj, but i really miss my scout alot ....

I don't have all the parts... I still need driveshafts, a fuel tank, all the tube for my cage, and quite a few other small items. Smog isn't an issue where I live, my boxed frame is starting to rot and will need some repairs, and the axles are way overkill for the tires I'll run, and the local wheeling I'll do. Hell, I haven't even wheeled in 5 years or so. Between spending time with my daughter and other hobbies that I enjoy more I really don't want to devote the time to doing all the body work the Scout needs.

What brought all this on is we are house shopping and I'm not really sure if I want to move the thing. Plus I'd rather spend the money it would take to finish it on other things, and I'd rather spend the time doing something I enjoy.
 
I appreciate all you guys trying to talk me out of getting rid of it, posting this here on Naxja I was honestly expecting everyone to tell me to build up my Xj and trash the Scout.

Maybe if I can find a frame and body in better shape I could go that route, or buy a fiberglass body for it($$$)

One thing I won't do is build it into a buggy.
 
MisterFubar said:
I do have a full service manual for it, but the manual doesn't really apply to it anymore. The motor/trans is original as is the frame and some of the body, but the entire electrical system, fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and wiring is modified or replaced with newer/better.

If you can't use the FSM, I probably can. Let's talk...
 
Update(not that anyone cares) :wave1:

It's getting hauled off by a buddy this weekend. I'm selling my house and buildling a new one and decided I really didn't feel like moving the thing twice(going to live in an apartment until the house is done).

Now I just need to decide what to do with my dana 60/14 bolt. Who wants a basically brand new D60 with highsteer, an ARB, and chromo's? heh.
 
What did the 60 come out of ? HP or LP? Pass or driver drop? King pin or ball joint?

Thanks for your service:patriot: !
 
It's out of a 86 Dodge D-700. King pin, passenger drop, low pinion, dually hubs, 4.56 gears with an ARB locker, Poison Spyder Highsteer arms, Ruffstuff 3/8" diff cover, 4130 35 spline outers with drive flanges, 35 spline non-taper inners, new bearing/seals/kingpins. All new brakes, and "1 ton" tierods/draglink made with .250 Wall 1.5" DOM. It's WIDE at about 75" WMS.

Probably not that desirable to any of you Jeep guys being a LP passenger drop.
 
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