House Federal Budget that is serious about getting America back on track

The answer to achieve good fiscal health is not in debating who is to blame for the past, it's in who will actually act on a solution in the future?

well said. I see that our troll friend has not responded to my post since I told him I was not a Republican.

I would also lke to point out that even in it's current form the budget that has been "cut" still increases our spending next year. How is that possible?
 
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I'm gonna study this plan over the weekend: http://www.savingthedream.org/about-the-plan/plan-details/
 
CBO Finds Reid Plan Actual Cuts Are $375 Billion Over Ten Years


Yesterday, we roasted Boehner over his proposed deficit-cutting plan after it was discovered that it cut about $250 billion less than had been promised.
Now it is time to do the same to Harry Reid, after the CBO has just released its analysis of his so-called "plan", which has double the credibility, and dollar, hole: per the CBO the plan will only generate $2.2 trillion in savings, half a trillion short of the promised $2.7 trillion.
But wait, it gets far, far more idiotic.

Per the CBO "The caps on appropriations of new budget authority excluding war-related funding start at $1,045 billion in 2012 and reach $1,228 billion in 2021" - that's right: savings from not fighting future wars - a cool trillion. But why stop there - savings from not declaring war on Mars: $1 quadrillion; savings from not paradropping suitcases full of $1 billion dollar bills for every US citizen: $333 quadrillion, and so forth.

But wait: there's more: "The legislation also would impose caps of $127 billion for 2012 and $450 billion over the 2013-2021 period on budget authority for operations in Afghanistan and Iraq and for similar activities."

But wait, there' even more: "Savings in discretionary spending would amount to nearly $1.8 trillion, mandatory spending would be reduced by $41 billion, and the savings in interest on the public debt because of the lower deficits would come to $375 billion."

Gotta love the circularity: less interest payments are part of the actual deficit cuts! So, here's the math: of the $2.2 trillion in "savings" strip away non-savings from non-authorized "wars" and you get... $750 billion... and take out the $375 billion in, no really, interest savings, and you get... $375 billion. OVER TEN YEARS! Is there a wonder why with idiotic leaders like this the true US rating is CCC at best?
Here is how the Reid plan looks in paper:
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This guy gets it:

Default is a false threat.

We take in over $220 billion in revenues every month and our debt service is only roughly $20 billion. The only way we will default is if the President of the United States makes the irresponsible choice not to pay our debts. Our country was founded on an idea: liberty. But it requires fiscal responsibility for people to be free. We are becoming slaves to our own government.

Every US family now owes $400,000 to $500,000 in national debt.

The compromises that we have witnessed on debt have taken our country to the brink of financial collapse. Currently, the American government is spending 44 cents of each dollar on interest payments. We have compromised our way into disaster. None of the budget plans proposed have real cuts in them -- only promises to cut. The reality is that legally one Congress cannot bind the future Congress to cut, so these promises are actually a lie. We need real and immediate cuts.

This debate is not about taxes. This is a question of spending. There is no amount of taxes that we could raise that would stop our deficit spending caused by politicians who have lied so often.
 
This debate is not about taxes. This is a question of spending. There is no amount of taxes that we could raise that would stop our deficit spending caused by politicians who have lied so often.

pretty sure I said that like 2 pages back.
 
Yes you did, and oddly enough, the majority of the politicians and media continue spouting off about default and the need to raise taxes as a solution for spending problems. Folks with common sense recognize the obvious, yet the elected elite continue to lie about the solution and grandstand to leverage votes from the uninformed and selective ignorant.
 
Hmm, looking at and reading some of the liberal new sites today looks like they have had their eyes jerked open and given a wedgie too by how badly we have been sold down the river and they just realized we are all in the same boat.
Makes me wonder if we will have elections in 2012.
 
Hmm, looking at and reading some of the liberal new sites today looks like they have had their eyes jerked open and given a wedgie too by how badly we have been sold down the river and they just realized we are all in the same boat.
Makes me wonder if we will have elections in 2012.

whether it's paper or projectiles I hope the upcoming election season bears big changes tto our federal government. I would love to see the de facto 2 party dominance broken.
 
You make that sound like a bad thing.

Show me where it says the Federal Government is required or even allowed to by law let alone take money out of my pocket to do it with.

You always talk about separation of church and state, you are treading a mighteee fine line there buddy on this one. :D
 
Show me where it says the Federal Government is required or even allowed to by law let alone take money out of my pocket to do it with.

You always talk about separation of church and state, you are treading a mighteee fine line there buddy on this one. :D

I didn't say I liked his beliefs, just his morals.
I don't think that is such a fine line.
 
I didn't say I liked his beliefs, just his morals.
I don't think that is such a fine line.

" It is my hope that more Christians will come to view the world through Marxist eyes" - Jim Wallace

You obviously know very little about Jim Wallis, his beliefs and his “morals”.

He’s no more religious than you are, yet he hides behind religion to promote his Marxist Socialist agenda, which he has been actively promoting since his college days in Chicago.

There is a reason he was appointed by Obama. Too bad you glossed over this post: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=245403176&postcount=82

Don’t take my word for it, please. I want you to totally disregard everything I say about him and do your own research on Wallis, then let me know if you still see him in the same light.

I know you are a Wiki fan, here is some light reading to get you started.......... http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Jim_Wallis
 
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After reading the link, I must say, I like the guy even more. He recognizes that leftist policies actually represent christianity far better than rightist policies.
Ask yourself this question XJeeper; What would jesus do? (if there was one)
Would he support leftist or rightist policies?
I think you already know the answer, but will NEVER admit it.
And your post about socialism and christianity being incompatible, is straight out of where the sun don't shine. I think you need to think long and hard about what is really the right thing to do, and stop just thinking about yourself.

How any right wingers can claim to be the party of god is a monster laugher.

Final words:
Liberals = generous
Conservatives = selfish
 
FWIW, I'm an Independent with Libertarian views.


WWJD? Charity comes from the heart and is based on love and the willingness to help others on your own free will. (Matt 25: 35-40) You stereotype me and judge me as if you know first hand of my actions and deeds. You couldn't be further from the truth, but why let the truth get in the way. (Romans 2: 1-11)

Freedom to choose is Christ's plan.

Forced compliance is Satan's plan.

Every historical example proves that Socialism creates two classes of people, the ruling class and the poor. It enslaves the masses and makes them subjects to the dictates of man.......doesn't sound very Christlike to me.

Please provide proof to support your claims that Jesus Christ's doctrine supports Socialism.

Please also include examples of Democratic Socialist countries who's people enjoy more freedoms than the Republic of the USA.

Please provide proof to support your final words........unless those are really your final words.

I think it's telling that you proclaim yourself to be an atheist, yet interject religion in most of your threads.....what are you hiding from? .......know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
 
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