Got to love public schools...

Home schooling.....is a real big topic here in this part of Colorado. Much bigger than it is in the Midwest. Sure it's fine for some but now that we know that this student is diagnosed Aspergers it is the last thing I would ever do. Yes...most classrooms make my skin crawl b/c the teachers don't know shit about behavior management when dealing with general education learners let alone someone with special needs. However, under most circumstances, it would be a huge mistake to home school this type of learner as they will NEVER get the social integration that can be obtained at a public school. I have 2 brothers on my current caseload that are diagnosed severe Autistic. Mom is an Autistic specialist that actually gets contracted by other districts to come in and do trainings to teachers on how to deal with this type of learner. She made the decision to home school both boys years ago and they suffered huge losses with regard to both academic and social issues that they still haven't resolved (and they've been back in the puclic school for 3 years now). They are now 8th graders and they can't be with out mom at all. She comes to school each day with them and they cry when I pull them to work one on one. An extreme case...yes...but one that illustrates how important it is to catch this stuff early on and deal with it the right way.

That's all I'll say about home schooling as my arguments/experience with it are different for learners with other issues.
 
This is Josh's wife. Our son does have an IEP. I made sure that the school was aware of it the day I registered him. I made sure the day he started school that the IEP was implemented and all of his records were there so there would be no issues and his learning process could run a little smoother than past experiences. It is a learning process for me as well to have a child with special needs. I have had multiple meetings with the special education teachers as well as his regular teacher to discuss his progress and ways we can make his days go by easier. The woman who works with him regularly had no idea that the name calling was happening. I walked into the building LIVID yesterday looking for the principal and when she asked me why, I explained the situation and her jaw just about hit the floor. For any of you with kids you will understand our anger about the name calling. It is completely inappropriate that an adult would call a 9 year old with special needs or any child, names and make fun of him. I can see how people would choose to homeschool their children out here when their children are belittled and called names by those who are supposed to be educationg them.
 
I think you and Josh are totally justified in being outraged, but being pissed won't necessarily fix the situation -- continuing to express yourselves and making sure that all teachers and administrators stay on track with the IEP and are aware of each other's actions, both appropriate and clearly not, is your best bet. Sometimes it takes an awful lot of face time to get your point across, and as riverfever said, not all SPED specialists are necessarily equiped to do the job they are supposed to do. Hats off to you guys for meeting your challenges with a special needs child, and keep pressuring the school, teachers, and administrators to do the right things.

My nephew, who is ADHD and for whom meds were appropriate, finally had to get into a different school with different programs to meet his needs. His progress has been great since then, but continued parent pressure on the teachers remains necessary to keep them focused on Ryne's specific needs...

Good luck to you guys!:)
 
Again....don't know the circumstances here but I'm gonna suggest that your situation is probably the exception and not the norm as to why most people make the decision to home school their child.

Big difference between third grade and middle school....for sure. However, I am sure there are times when someone who's not one of my students or their parents could easily take a conversation between myself and one of my students out of context if they were to pop their head in my door. Thankfully...my parents, the teachers I work with, and other staff members know that because of the relationship I have gone to great lengths to establish with my students, I can get them to do things (acedemically and behaviorally speaking) that no one else in the building can dream of. Are there educators that do things b/c they have an axe to grind instead of doing something with the intention that it's what will work for a given child? Sadly...yes...and we could go on and on as to why that is.
 
xj-grin said:
continuing to express yourselves and making sure that all teachers and administrators stay on track with the IEP and are aware of each other's actions, both appropriate and clearly not, is your best bet.
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To be honest...I am stunned at how many parents do not know their full rights as a parent of a child with a disability identified by IDEA. I follow the IEP process to a fawkin' T because that's the way we did things at the facility I worked at and at the public schools in the Midwest. In my current district, I am routinely told that I need to loosen up on the legal mumbo jumbo. That packet containing your rights is serious business. This is why I asked about the child being sent home. Again...without knowing the full details, it seems odd to me to justify sending a child home that has profound communicative/social defecits because the child does not receive the message, "it's time to go back to class" the way a general education student might. An Autistic child does not work that way. If there are unresolved issues (even minute ones that exist in the child's mind, then he/she wont even take a piss until those issues are resolved in a way that's accepatable to them).

Getting more technical than I probably should, a student with an IEP can receive school consequences for behaviors deemed inappropriate (could be in school suspension, out of school suspension) but there is a point and time when something referred to as a manifestation determination legally must be held in order to determine whether or not the behavior being exhibited is directly related to the child's disability (no general education teachers know what this is and they shouldn't have to but many sped teachers don't have a clue either). At a hearing, I would think it would be very difficult to justify issuing those types of consequences for those types of behaviors to a child with those defecits. Look at it this way: If a blind student became disoriented and, as a result, flipped out and caused a bunch of damage (maybe they broke all the glass in a trophy case due to their panicked state) could the school issue a consequence for that behavior? Hell no because the behavior is a direct result of the disability. I have another student with Aspergers and he recently was bumped in the hallway. He viewed it as a personal attack and struck the child with his lunch box. Administration was set to suspend the child and I argued that the behavior, while completely inappropriate, was clearly a result of this students inability to read social cues within his environment. Make sense? The answer for this case was to write up what's known as a Behavior Intervention Plan. My parents didn't have a clue that that was within their rights until I met with them. I'll shut up now.

I always make sure that my parents receive this newsletter. Sign up for it if you'd like...it's got great info and it's always good to be aware of your rights. Most schools would rather you not be though as it makes their job more difficult.

www.wrightslaw.com
 
I didn't know this was mumbo jumbo, all seemed on topic to me... :dunno:
 
Here is pics of what I did at work. I had the same problem my son has he acts just like I did. He can see things different then other people just like I do. He will be fine thanks for the concern. I just wanted share about the teachers calling him names. His problems are no bodies business other then my wife and mine.

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Stang5lgt said:
His problems are no bodies business other then my wife and mine.
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I thought it was on topic as well but now I realize we were talking about home projects all along.

IIRC...you were the one that started the thread about your sons disabilities. Best of luck man. I'm sure a new school will take care of everything.
 
Stang5lgt said:
I am not the one who stated my wife did. And considering I turned out fine I don't think you could of helped me or my son. Thanks for the chitty comments. Now I know what you really think, that you better then others. I love self righteous know it alls.
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Is this aimed at me?
 
riverfever said:
I thought it was on topic as well but now I realize we were talking about home projects all along.

IIRC...you were the one that started the thread about your sons disabilities. Best of luck man. I'm sure a new school will take care of everything.
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I did not start a thread about his problems I started one about his teacher calling him a name. You are one who pried and asked what his problems were. And love the little comment about new school. His teacher is the problem not him. Like I stated before maybe you were sleeping through that part his last 3 grades were fine. Not until this year did we have a problem. You seem to wanna turn this around and put it on him as the problem not the teacher. New school means no people who bully him running the school. So I think he will be fine. So keep cherry picking comments. Maybe you have ADD. LOL :roflmao:
 
dude, WTF? river and others were just trying to help... ease up on the paranoia.
 
whatever.



and there was only one boating accident, though it was indeed tragic.:wierd:
 
xj-grin said:
whatever.



and there was only one boating accident, though it was indeed tragic.:wierd:
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LOL that is right whatever. This thread was never about my kid. It was about the people working at his school who acted like they were in 3rd grade. River didn't like my comments about teachers thinking I was referring to all. I know not all them are bad. And slowly this thread went from his teachers to my kid thanks to River prying. That is BS.
 
Wow, this thread took a 180 in a heartbeat. Seems if you didn't want to go into the details, you shouldn't have even started the thread in the first place. It's only logical that people'd wonder about the background info to cause such a scenario.

And if it was your wife, and you didn't want it posted, maybe you should have logged off?
 
Really sorry that you took offense Stang. This was never about me defending teachers at all. I even stated that I work with some teachers that shouldn't be allowed to set foot in the building. Prying?? Really?? Generally when someone asks me a question that I don't wanna get into I tell them I'd rather not discuss it. Next time don't volunteer up information on a public forum. Hope tomorrow's a better day for ya. :dunno:
 
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