GM halts production on the Chevy Volt

I paid 38k for my house. 40k for a Volt aint happening.

They are really nifty, but even my dad, who is a huge alternative energy fan, ended up buying a flexfuel ford ranger instead of a volt. Reason? It's more economical for him, and he needs 4wd to get to the property he just bought to build his next house on. Pretty much the same reasons I drive an MJ.
 
westvirginia24976 said:
I'll quote you brother.
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If it were just about the Volt, this would be in general off-topic. This is about the wisdom of using tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to prop up an industry segment that just couldn't/shouldn't survive on its own.

Robert
 
slvmart said:
The Prius C is a concept vehicle, per Toyota website. Prices and vehicle have not been released. So why compare to something that doesn't yet exist ?

But thanks for making my point.
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According the the EPA website, fueleconomy.gov, there are three Priuses currently on the market. They have pricing and mpg figures on all three. There's the standard Prius at 51/48, the v at 44/40, and the c at 53/46. Prices range from 19,500 starting on the c to 23,015 on the standard, and 26,400 for the v.
Here's the link in case you want to check it out yourself.

You can also build your own Prius c on the Toyota website.
bjoehandley said:
If you're talking about noise, sure. Now when to comes to acceleration, it wouldn't stand a chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RESC54vHr40&feature=related

The owners a douche, but it's a damn fast car.
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Yeah, my truck is slow. My wife's minivan is quite a bit faster. But the sound!
 
WrenchMonkey said:
If it were just about the Volt, this would be in general off-topic. This is about the wisdom of using tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to prop up an industry segment that just couldn't/shouldn't survive on its own.

Robert
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Odd title for that topic, but I agree that was the theme. It was not about the Prius though and it is nice for someone to redirect once in a while.
 
I think that costs extra, it's part of the kumbaya trim package.
 
It's too bad about the Volt. Seems like a good concept. Unfortunately it's probably got little market potential without massive subsidies. It's just too expensive. Hybrids can sell to people who don't do math, the same way 50K pickup trucks have become common. Current tech full electrics have a niche market as short-range commuters. That's where we're at right now.

Bumper stickers are still optional.(I think)

XJEEPER said:
On the subject of advancing technology....... http://www.pcworld.com/article/2481...y_with_a_500mile_range_for_electric_cars.html
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From the article:
The reason we are not using these magical, breathing batteries right now is because they are also chemically unstable, and as of right now, frequent recharges completely destroy the battery life. The researchers discovered that the oxygen is also reacting with in-turn depletes the electrolytic solvent, a conducting solution that moves Li-ions between the electrodes and regulates the chemical reaction.

note - Colored fonts are mine, but I didn't cut that paragraph up. It was printed just like that in the article.
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"Chemically unstable" is an interesting term which can mean anything from, "turns into sticky pink goo." to "it goes bang". Can't be frequently recharged would be a bit of a downer for the power supply for any electronic equipment. And it's an "air breathing" battery,.. that gets contaminated with oxygen?

The short answer is they don't work.
 
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Shorty said:
kinda strange how the same Camry cost $24,253 when it was compared to the Camry Hybrid but only $22,097 when it was compared to the Prius.
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And compared the Volt to the Cruze Eco. Not even the same class of car. Hell, Prius and Camry aren't even really the same class. Size wise, the Volt is more on par with the Malibu. Same goes for equipment/fanciness. The Cruze is more of a econocar while the Volt is reasonably nice inside. The Prius is closer to the Corolla than the Camry size wise, but more like the Camry on niceness.

I'd also like to know where they got their numbers. For example, the numbers they used on the Cruze/Eco comparison don't match the EPA ratings, which would actually make it take longer to recoup the costs. The Volt comparison doesn't really work because it can cover such a wide range of usage. If I take only short drives, like the majority of my driving, I can get by using very very very little gas, and pay maybe $800 a year, tops to drive it, based on the EPA ratings. This makes the difference in cost go up to $1100/yr, allowing me to pay off the difference a lot faster. Compared to the Malibu eAssist, it's even better.
 
This is kind of interesting
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http://www.newsmax.com/US/hybrid-car-loyalty-prius/2012/04/10/id/435378

Some 65 percent of the owners of hybrids ditch the fuel efficient cars when it when it comes time to buy a new vehicle, according to a new study by Polk, an automotive information and marketing solutions firm.

The study found that only 35 percent of hybrid vehicle owners chose to purchase a hybrid again when buying a new vehicle in 2011. The Michigan-based firm found that if the owners of the popular Toyota Prius are excluded from the study, hybrid loyalty drops to under 25 percent.
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Apparently whatever the advantages to a hybrid are, two of three buyers seem to think one is enough.

'Wonder how many Chevy Volt owners will buy a second Volt when the time comes.
 
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