Gaging interest in a mwc florida ltc permit class

w_howey said:
Is the NRA basic pistol course part of the CCW class or is that a different class completely??
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depends on what kind of class makeup i get.

if i have a majority of first timey shooters, young, new, unseasoned or otherwise, i will do a genuine nra basic pistol course. this will be enough to qualify for az or florida.

if the class makeup pretty much intermediate to experienced shooters simply looking for the CCW cert, i will pattern after the nra "first steps" just to brush up on fundamentals, and flush out any safety, shooting mechanics, or possible attitudinal concerns, and move on toward some shooting/holster draw/simple defense exercises.

az nd fl does not require a full 8 hr. basic pistol course. some other states do.

if for some reason, someone desired a connecticut, maine, or other state that i can qualify for, that requires the 8hr basic pistol, i can go with those lesson plans.

i've recently been asked to do a private class in south west michigan sometime in late march/early april. i *may* have two or three open spots for this.

I don't know the full details yet.

I'm just getting all this sorted out, i really want to do a class with you guys, i'd ask for further patience while i get this dialed in, and we'll get something on the calendar soon.
 
So, I would feel like a fool to assume that the $100 cost of this class covers the FL application as well. So how much does the FL application cost?
 
XJosh95 said:
So, I would feel like a fool to assume that the $100 cost of this class covers the FL application as well. So how much does the FL application cost?
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florida app is 117 dollars.

getting your fingerprint cards done may caost extra.

the cost is why some of us are suggesting the AZ.

another interesting piece of info....Utah has current legislation that lowers the cost of their CCW permit.

in answer to Indiana:

with indiana you currently do NOT HAVE recip in the following states:

WA,OR,NV,CA,NM,NE,KS,MN,IL (DUH!), OH,WV,VA,SC,NY,ME,MA,CT,RI,NJ,DE,MD,FL,NH,MI

you have recip in 26 states by my count.

adding an AZ would get you:

NV,NM,NE,KS,OH,WV,VA,DE

added to what your IN gives you.

Michigan law is going to change soon. Mi will be the first state that will honor a sort of "open reciprocity"....ANY state-issued carry permit will be honored.

unfortunately, you must reside in the state of issuance. which basically means, Illinois residents still have no carry priveledges in MI.

I heard some info that says some sponsers are trying to resolve this, but we'll have to wait and see.
 
Sorry Indiana guy....I see you were asking about FL, not AZ....

adding FL to your IN....you still WON'T have:

MD,OR,NV,CA,MN,ILibtarded,NY,ME,MA,CT,RI,NJ,CO,MI,NH,SC,ME

Shame about NV....florida had recip not too long ago.....
 
I read thru all this and I'm still not sure I have the correct answer...

Can I carry in Indiana with my Wisconsin CCL or am I not able to?

Don't want Mac after me! :eyes:
 
WI88XJ said:
I read thru all this and I'm still not sure I have the correct answer...

Can I carry in Indiana with my Wisconsin CCL or am I not able to?

Don't want Mac after me! :eyes:
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Firearms are prohibited at the Badlands. I am not sure about the campground.

mac 'I'll be in non-cop mode anyways' gyvr
 
macgyvr said:
Firearms are prohibited at the Badlands. I am not sure about the campground.

mac 'I'll be in non-cop mode anyways' gyvr
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check state law.

in many states, private business/land owners can post signs "prohibiting" firearms, (or just about any other thing for that matter) on their property.....

In many cases, that does NOT mean that they have effectively changed the legslation simply by hanging a sign.

one may simply ignore the signage, doing so lawfully. In this case, no weapons charge may be brought upon a person with a CCWP in states that don't have a provision that supports local/private prohibition within the legislation or regs.

However...In these cases, if the private land owner, or business owner suspects you've ignored the posting, he may ask you to leave, which of course, you are obligated to comply. Refusal to comply to a request to leave the premisis would naturally result in a criminal tresspass charge, but in many cases, depending on the state, cannot result in a weapons violation.

I do not know how the regs/crim code is written for indiana. As always, check laws, its your responsibility to know them.

I have ignored no-firearm signs (posted on private business) on a couple of occasions in Missouri. In that state, the only statutory restrictions on a permit holder is secured areas such as airports and all federal property and federal buildings. The most recent was a car dealership in west county Mo. I needed a part, happened to be carrying (deep concealment) and proceded to award this establishment with my business. One has three choices:

#1 honor the wishes of the business owner and disarm.

#2 ignore the sign and procede as the law allows

#3 "vote with one's wallet" and take your business to a place that honors rights.

In most cases, i choose #3.
 
I'm not saying that its against the law, I'm just saying the Badlands prohibits. I'm sure that if they found out, you would be thrown out and told never to return.

I'm sure its apart of their liability insurance.

mac 'why are you buying stuff in MO?' gyvr
 
macgyvr said:
Firearms are prohibited at the Badlands. I am not sure about the campground.

mac 'I'll be in non-cop mode anyways' gyvr
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Just yankin' your chain, Matt :) But thanks for pointing out the Badlands rule. I hadn't given that any thought. Don't want to be kicked out during the best event ever!


Beezil said:
check state law.

in many states, private business/land owners can post signs "prohibiting" firearms, (or just about any other thing for that matter) on their property.....

In many cases, that does NOT mean that they have effectively changed the legslation simply by hanging a sign.

one may simply ignore the signage, doing so lawfully. In this case, no weapons charge may be brought upon a person with a CCWP in states that don't have a provision that supports local/private prohibition within the legislation or regs.

However...In these cases, if the private land owner, or business owner suspects you've ignored the posting, he may ask you to leave, which of course, you are obligated to comply. Refusal to comply to a request to leave the premisis would naturally result in a criminal tresspass charge, but in many cases, depending on the state, cannot result in a weapons violation.

I do not know how the regs/crim code is written for indiana. As always, check laws, its your responsibility to know them.

I have ignored no-firearm signs (posted on private business) on a couple of occasions in Missouri. In that state, the only statutory restrictions on a permit holder is secured areas such as airports and all federal property and federal buildings. The most recent was a car dealership in west county Mo. I needed a part, happened to be carrying (deep concealment) and proceded to award this establishment with my business. One has three choices:

#1 honor the wishes of the business owner and disarm.

#2 ignore the sign and procede as the law allows

#3 "vote with one's wallet" and take your business to a place that honors rights.

In most cases, i choose #3.
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In Wisconsin you can hang a sign up banning weapons in your establishment but if I get caught then all that happens is that you are asked to leave the property. If you don't then you get a trespass ticket. I usually do a combo of #2 and #3, depending on how I feel at the moment.

Beezil said:
the information availalbe to me at this time says indiana has reciprocity with wisconsin.
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I thought so but I couldn't find it to be sure. Thanks.
 
macgyvr said:
I'm not saying that its against the law, I'm just saying the Badlands prohibits. I'm sure that if they found out, you would be thrown out and told never to return.

I'm sure its apart of their liability insurance.

mac 'why are you buying stuff in MO?' gyvr
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cause illinois tax is so damn high, i can actually drive 600 miles round trip, gas and all, get my stuff and actually save money!

why not indiana?

last time i was there, i was sexually assaulted by a cop
 
Beezil said:
cause illinois tax is so damn high, i can actually drive 600 miles round trip, gas and all, get my stuff and actually save money!

why not indiana?

last time i was there, i was sexually assaulted by a cop
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You would think that IN cops could control themselves around you...

I can't believe you can save that much...

mac 'taxed and assaulted' gyvr
 
WI88XJ said:
Just yankin' your chain, Matt :)

In Wisconsin you can hang a sign up banning weapons in your establishment but if I get caught then all that happens is that you are asked to leave the property. If you don't then you get a trespass ticket. I usually do a combo of #2 and #3, depending on how I feel at the moment.

I thought so but I couldn't find it to be sure. Thanks.
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my understanding most states are like that.

some states are actually reversing the regs that make it illegal for you to carry in places that serve alcohol. why would taking my family out to dinner at the local pub disqualify me from being able to protect myself or my fam wether or not i have a beer or two?

some states are making it illegal for business owners to prohbit employees from having firearms in their vehicles in the company parking lot. As a business owner myself??? I TOTALLY support this. Business owners have many rights to grant or to prohibit what goes on in the building or grounds. But no employer should have legal means to prevent anyone from excercizing a constitutional right.

It's going our way guys and gals. We just gotta keep at it. without the second ammendment, we will have no power to defend our ability to excerize the others.

okay, climbing down from soapbox now......
 
Beezil said:
this guy had a mowhawk and said there was only one way to avoid arrest.
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Didn't we do it in the sand?

mac 'hawt' gyvr
 
Beezil said:
some states are making it illegal for business owners to proihbit employees from having firearms in their vehicles in the company parking lot. As a business owner myself??? I TOTALLY support this. Business owners have many rights to grant or to prohibit what goes on in the building or grounds. But no employer should have legal means to prevent anyone from exercising a constitutional right.
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Wisconsin tried to do this when they adapted the concealed carry law. It was found to be unconstitutional to prohibit employees from keeping a firearm in their vehicle on company property because if they can't have it in their vehicle at work, then they can't carry it on the way to and from work.

Granted, most people might just lock it in their glove compartment and never say nary a word about it because they don't want to give up their ability to protect themselves to and from work on property that isn't their employer's.

Glad they used their heads on this one.
 
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