Emissions vs. 35"s

[Hypoid]

Frank Z speaks the truth: Operate it here, abide by the law here. It doesn't matter where it's registered. Granted, it's easy to slip through the cracks in a Metro area, but, if you drive a unique vehicle, you just might get more attention than you want. If you happen to be involved in an accident and list an employer, or, residence in the enhanced area; that just might tip a red flag.

Last time I did a title transfer I saw a notice about trying to falsify records to evade taxes or emission requirements. I forget the fine, that is not a place I can afford to go with my junk.

 

[philip_g]

You sure you want to do that? http://www.9news.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=92215

and this applies to me how? I'm titled in CO, have paid the tax, and registerred in CO, also paying, you guessed it, tax. The only reason they give two shits about that is people are ducking a few grand in sales tax.

I was reading through C.R.S. Section 42 (Traffic Code) last night, and while I don't recall the section, there's some serious penalties available for those that don't register properly or on time.

Don't forget that once you have it registered, you can do the drive-through e-test in the first nine months of your registration. Have to drive through twice at different locations or on different days and have to pass, of course. They do have a new feature that allows AirCare to call you in for a tailpipe sniff if you appear to be a "gross polluter" though. I don't recall what the limits are for that.

Jim www.yuccaman.com

This has nothing to do with the actual emissions of my car, it has to do with dealing with stupid visual inspections and idiots that can't just test the damn thing as it sits without a serious pain in my ass. It doesn't matter that it runs cleaner than it did new, gramps sees that the engine is different and can't test it. it's a useless system and I've seen it in multiple states and it never works.

 

[philip_g]

Last time I did a title transfer I saw a notice about trying to falsify records to evade taxes or emission requirements. I forget the fine, that is not a place I can afford to go with my junk.

haven't falsified anything. the address used is mine and mine alone. it amazes me that you guys think the whole system is a reasonable burden.
but hey, here I am, troy come and get me I'm clearly a threat to society. CO is second only to Oregon for being the most regulated state I've lived in, an it's a CLOSE second.
Anyway, later. It's been guys.

 

[billyb0b]

crap... this is the most informative place i've found online concerning tire size and the emissions test

i don't have a XJ, i have a 2004 1/2 ton dodge rolling on 37's and am due for an emissions test

looks like i'm screwed and have to find some smaller tires and dial down the speedo

it states this on the aircare site: "Only vehicles with manufacturer-equipped undersized or oversized tires that do not fit safely on the dynamometer will be authorized by the state to undergo an idle test instead of a dynamometer test. Vehicles with tires larger or smaller than original equipment that do not fit safely on the dynamometer must be returned to stock condition for testing. Vehicles with non-original undersized or oversized tires will not receive authorization from the state for an idle test."

do u think that i can tell the testers that i bought the truck with 37's and request an idle test??

 

[XJTodd]

do u think that i can tell the testers that i bought the truck with 37's and request an idle test??

Well, I gusppose you can give it a try. Believe me, I started this thread, and I tried EVERYTHING I could think of. They don't take $#!t for excuses. I was luckily able to borrow some 33s and get it done. Yeah, I had to swap tires in the parking lot when I got there, but I got it done. In this case, for such a small ordeal, it's not worth fighting the system. Your time is better spent swapping tires. I went to the AirCare Colorado in Broomfield, and between the tire swap before/after and the actual testing, I bet I wasn't there any longer than an hour total.

Good luck, the guys at Air Care said there were some tire shops down the street that would rent out sizes that will fit.

 

[billyb0b]

Well, I gusppose you can give it a try. Believe me, I started this thread, and I tried EVERYTHING I could think of. They don't take $#!t for excuses. I was luckily able to borrow some 33s and get it done. Yeah, I had to swap tires in the parking lot when I got there, but I got it done. In this case, for such a small ordeal, it's not worth fighting the system. Your time is better spent swapping tires. I went to the AirCare Colorado in Broomfield, and between the tire swap before/after and the actual testing, I bet I wasn't there any longer than an hour total.

Good luck, the guys at Air Care said there were some tire shops down the street that would rent out sizes that will fit.

thanks man. i'm in parker. i'm going to give a call to 4wp in denver about maybe giving me a hand, being that i've given them near 10 grand over the years maybe they will be cool about it. also call a local 4x4 shop here in parker and see if they can help.

looks like i'll be renting some 32's or 33's for it.

stupid a$$ emissions law

 

[DutchVDub]

thanks man. i'm in parker. i'm going to give a call to 4wp in denver about maybe giving me a hand, being that i've given them near 10 grand over the years maybe they will be cool about it. also call a local 4x4 shop here in parker and see if they can help.

looks like i'll be renting some 32's or 33's for it.

stupid a$$ emissions law

If you want to come up to Thornton to get tested I can loan you some stock tires or we can swap out with the 32's I got on my Jeep now.

It doesn't matter what you bought your car with, they will still make you change out the tires for the proper test. How come everyone cares so much about the enviroment on a trail site but doesn't car about emmisions testing? Same enviroment people, and over polluting cars cause more damage than a few vehicles going up the side of a mountain.

 

[ColoradoRaptor]

Damn good thing I live where I do!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ROKRWLR]

A guy I worked with was able to convince the people at the Air Care Colorado testing site that his 35's were within the limits of testing on his YJ a few years ago. I haven't talked to him in the last couple years to see if it has continued to work in the following years.

He had 35" MTRs on his YJ and used the description from thier website:

"An Important Note About Tire Size
Tires that are smaller than 17 inches or larger than 34 inches cannot be safely tested on the dynamometer."

He showed them that information and explained that a 35" tire is not 35" in diameter, but 34.x" and actually convinced them to test it. I think he measured it in frot of the guy at the site (34.8" actual diameter + the weight of the car sitting on them put him pretty close to 34")

I don't know if this would still fly, but it couldn't hurt to try it. If it still works, post it back here and some people could be saved a bunch of hassle around emmissions time.

 

[DutchVDub]

When I worked there whe had a strick that we used to measure the tire. If the tire was shorter than the stick we would test it.

 

[XJTodd]

I seriously doubt that they let him test it with 35s. Even when I swapped to the 33s for the testing it bearly cleared the 'gaurds'. And like Dutch says, the first thing they did when I showed up is walk out with a yard stick, hold it up to a tire, and said "we can't test with these tires".

Even if it were able to somehow magically fit with the 35s, would you really want to take the chance of them catching on those guards while they're doing 50 mph on that roller? If it didn't jump off the roller and cause an accident, it might even tear up an axle or something.

I wasn't all that happy with it first, but all things conisidered now, it's not worth being lazy and to just abide by their rules. Remember, THEY don't need anything from US, we're the ones going to them so we can legally drive our fancy rides around.

I'm sure glad I started this thread. It seems to have sparked up alot of conversation, and is clearing up some really grey areas around this.