Crane D44 Housing worth it?

[cracker]

Should have gone king pin, though.

YES!!

A man with some sense!

 

[XJ_ranger]

I know, but the guy is selling them as a set. I could always trade the 60 or sell it if I decide differently. One thing is, I know whenever I move up to 35's it'll take a beating if I decide to keep it.

true - but I personaly HATE my low pinion Ford 9 - and I suspect that the 60 pinion is about the same "lowness" so in that regard - I dont wish that on anyone...

especially people ive chatted with at a campfire!

 

[CRASH]

true - but I personaly HATE my low pinion Ford 9 - and I suspect that the 60 pinion is about the same "lowness" so in that regard - I dont wish that on anyone...

especially people ive chatted with at a campfire!

You'd be surprised, the Dana 60 has less hypoid offset than a Dana 44. It's the least amount of "lowness" of any common Dana differential.......

http://www.truehi9.com/driveshaft2.html

 

[CRASH]

I'm in the same boat as Dave (we're building 2 indentical 609's).
I can't use my CHP as it's 31 spline, + I need it to sell my 449 complete.
I'm tempted to buy another CHP to save $1000+ on what I think is already overkill, if not lacking bling.

Our goal is try & build 'um as light as our 44's.

Paul

Oh, another thing, I think your axle balance would be thrown way off by using a CHP over a TH9. Think of the balance, man.

 

[Paul S]

Oh, another thing, I think your axle balance would be thrown way off by using a CHP over a TH9. Think of the balance, man.

You don't have to tell me two times, I'm all about balance...

P

 

[David Taylor]

Seriously, are you worried about the 1/4" tubes in the Spider 9?

Problem solved: As of today.


Hey guys!! Do to popluar demand we are now offering 3/8" wall Spider 9 housings!!! It is considered to be a custom order only at this point so we aren'y stocking them yet, but if you allow 4-6 weeks to build we will have you a 3/8" wall axle housing!!! And please note, we still completely stand behind our 1/4" wall design from an engineering standpoint and will continue to produce and stock them, but we are listening to what the public wants and are trying to cater to that. But 3/8" is as big as we're going. No 1/2". Dont ask

 

[BrettM]

Problem solved: As of today.


Hey guys!! Do to popluar demand we are now offering 3/8" wall Spider 9 housings!!! It is considered to be a custom order only at this point so we aren'y stocking them yet, but if you allow 4-6 weeks to build we will have you a 3/8" wall axle housing!!! And please note, we still completely stand behind our 1/4" wall design from an engineering standpoint and will continue to produce and stock them, but we are listening to what the public wants and are trying to cater to that. But 3/8" is as big as we're going. No 1/2". Dont ask

you can get way more bending resistance from a simple truss than by going to 3/8 wall, and with less weight.

unless your concern is denting the tubes...

 

[Paul S]

you can get way more bending resistance from a simple truss than by going to 3/8 wall, and with less weight.

unless your concern is denting the tubes...

I agree. I'm having trouble steping up to the Spider over the Currie with 3/16 wall.

Paul

 

[CRASH]

I agree. I'm having trouble steping up to the Spider over the Currie with 3/16 wall.

Paul

The weight difference between 3/16, 1/4" and 3/8" is like 2 pounds per foot for each step up. Figure 5 feet in an assembly? So 10 pounds?

I'll agree with Brett on a truss, I think they are mandatory in a rear application, but it can be hard to properly truss a front if you are not running CO's.

Me, I like my 1/2" wall D-44......wish it was a 1/2" wall 60.

 

[David Taylor]

It can be hard to properly truss a front if you are not running CO's.

Good thing some of those will be going on also. The hardest part will be ordering the housing (dare I say) full width. :wierd:

 

[CRASH]

Good thing some of those will be going on also. The hardest part will be ordering the housing (dare I say) full width. :wierd:

Sweet Jesus, say it ain't so!

Gonna be able to fit through the gate at Barrett? 80 inches max!

 

[XJ_ranger]

You'd be surprised, the Dana 60 has less hypoid offset than a Dana 44. It's the least amount of "lowness" of any common Dana differential.......

http://www.truehi9.com/driveshaft2.html

wow...

interesting...

the Ford 9 is so much stronger because the pinion enters the ring gear so much lower, meaning larger teeth and more contact area on the teeth... I wonder how ring and pinion strength compare between the two axles...

i am shocked to see the inch of ground clearance gain that I would get by going to a 60...

 

[Paul S]

Sweet Jesus, say it ain't so!

Gonna be able to fit through the gate at Barrett? 80 inches max!

We're shooting for 65" WMS, maybe a little more since our CTM shafts will handle pretty good angles.

The other factor is that we're thinking with the unit bearings we'll have little offset from the KP axis to the WMS, which means we'll need a wider axle to get to 65". We'll mock it up Sat. & see.

Interesting that you say the rear 9 needs a truss more then the front, I've never even considered trussing it. Course the rear soaks up the big bumps that bottom the front hard.

P

 

[CRASH]

Interesting that you say the rear 9 needs a truss more then the front, I've never even considered trussing it. Course the rear soaks up the big bumps that bottom the front hard.

P

Only because it's so hard to truss the front efectively!

Ideally, for the fast stuff, mad trussing is necessary. Even those special "momentum" obstacles really take their toll on housings. Between the WCGIC guys plus Garry, we've broken or bent a fair share of housings.

I see a lot of housings while doing R&P work, and not many are perfectly straight, and these are mostly street driven rigs. That's why fresh housings are so nice, even nicer when you build a good truss while they are still virgin.....

 

[mikecooper]

I see that no one has yet to mention a sunray 609 with a true hi9 3rd? or a sunray 1610 for that matter, its only 10k thats not too bad;(