BF Goodrich tire comparisons....

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A local shop is having a special on BFG All-Terrain T/A KO's for 560 for (4) 33x12.5R15's, mounted and balanced out the door. The BFG M/Ts are about 70 bucks more without the mount and ballance. Now my question is, will i notice much of a traction improvment with the M/T's over the A/T's to justify another 100+ bucks?? Most of the trails i drive are BIG rocks/loose dirt/steeps hills/etc.
 
That there in lies the predicament...i dont run mud that often and even when i do, its not mud bogging type of stuff. Maybe a couple rutted out ditches after a thunderstorm or a shallow creek....but the M/T's seem to be all the rage with the weekend off-roaders and rock crawlers. Just last weekend alone i counted nearly 20 guys running M/T's of some sort out of probably the 25-30 people we encountered...do they know something that i dont????
 
Well, you gotta remember that just because it's called a mud-terrain doesn't mean it's just a mud tire. Think of it as an all-terrain with deeper voids and shoulder lugs.

I have a set of A/Ts and the ride quality is great. My friend had some M/Ts and said he couldn't really tell the difference on road, but the difference off road was awesome.

Even if you don't mud bog, the larger, more agressive tread will help with traction.

The next set of tires I purchase will be either BFG M/Ts or GoodYear MT/Rs. Speaking of MT/Rs, have you looked at those? Great dry traction tire.
 
Starscream918 said:
Speaking of MT/Rs, have you looked at those? Great dry traction tire.
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Yes i have...and have been tossing the idea around for them too. As a matter of fact, i can get 4 of right at about 500 bucks unmounted. Maybe ill look into those a little more...
 
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personaly- i run BFG AT's in the 33x12.50r15 variety and cant justify running an MT.

The bigger lugs have less surface contact with the road (and sadly that is where my rig spends 95% of its time) and they also dont have any sipeing(sp?) - little grooves that allow for water to move out of the way during rain. MT's also are said to suck on ice, but all the ice driving that i do, i am trying to loose traction...

if i got a stellar deal on some 35" MTR's id run them, but for the same price, id rather run my BFG AT's...

Just my opinion...

Oh - and i stay out of the mud whenever possible...
 
XJ_ranger said:
personaly- i run BFG AT's in the 33x12.50r15 variety and cant justify running an MT.

The bigger lugs have less surface contact with the road (and sadly that is where my rig spends 95% of its time) and they also dont have any sipeing(sp?) - little grooves that allow for water to move out of the way during rain. MT's also are said to suck on ice, but all the ice driving that i do, i am trying to loose traction...

if i got a stellar deal on some 35" MTR's id run them, but for the same price, id rather run my BFG AT's...

Just my opinion...

Oh - and i stay out of the mud whenever possible...
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I totally agree with those comments. They do lose traction on the road in favor of off road traction. And after reading that, it sparked my memory. My ProComps suck in rain, and I have ATs. I can only imagine MTs.

MT/Rs are looking better and better- an agressive AT with awesome dry traction, good on road ride, and not too shabby sticky performance... although I've heard they leave something to be desired. But hey, that's what a winch is for.
 
XJ_ranger said:
Oh - and i stay out of the mud whenever possible...
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p.s....i have the bfg m/t in a 33" and love'em!! they are great on rock's, wet or dry.
 
M/T's are a great tire, A/t's work well but only in dry stuff, even slightly wet dirt seems to gum them up. My Dad run the BFG M/T's year round and they work fine.
 
Spend the extra cash and go with the M/Ts or MT/Rs. Much better that ATs in rocks, and both M/T and MT/Rs have better side lugs than most, if not all ATs.
 
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ive run bfg at's and in the mud they suck a lot.. clog up like crap.. i'd suggest either trxus m/t or bfg m/t
 
Cheyenne?! Wow. That complicates matters a bit. I grew up in Casper and I know how the winters are out there.

FWIW -- I've run the MT's and the MT/R's and I would highly recommend both. I run similar trails as to what you describe -- Hollister Hills (site of the Top Truck Challenge) and the Rubicon. My friends who have run the AT's all had trouble in the same terrain and most of them have switched tires.

I feel the MT/R's are a better all around tire, but I liked the the MT's better for offroad traction.

The MT's suck in the rain and ice. You can have them siped, but they still won't be as good as the AT's or the MT/R's on the wet roads

So it comes down to what you have in mind. MT's leave a lot to be desired on wet roads, but they're great offroad, in the mud, and in the snow. The MT/R's are expensive but are a better compromise. The AT's will have you feeling safe on the road, but will leave you wanting when the road ends.
 
Trxus m/t's...hands down. Mine were killer on the street, stuck to the snow, and did pretty good offroad. I'd consider them the best AT tire with an offroad slant out there. They look killer too. 1st hand comparison to an MT/R and BFG MT wasn't really even a comparison. I couldn't find any area where they were better. Possibly a slight edge in longevity...but that was super slight. The sidwalls were much beefier then the BFG's (not sure on the MT/R), so that is something to consider too.
 
Starscream918 said:
Well, you gotta remember that just because it's called a mud-terrain doesn't mean it's just a mud tire. Think of it as an all-terrain with deeper voids and shoulder lugs. I have a set of A/Ts and the ride quality is great. My friend had some M/Ts and said he couldn't really tell the difference on road, but the difference off road was awesome. Even if you don't mud bog, the larger, more agressive tread will help with traction. The next set of tires I purchase will be either BFG M/Ts or GoodYear MT/Rs. Speaking of MT/Rs, have you looked at those? Great dry traction tire.
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X2, right on Starscream918 :D

My '00 XJ is my DD and only vehicle. Gave it a 3" lift to fit 31"s for ample off road use and good street manners, with reduced drivetrain complications. I use Dunlop Mud Rovers even though it's on the street 70% of the time. I want that 'extra' traction for when I leave the street. DMR's have very good ratings and are comparable to the popular brands, for a lot less $$!
 
If you think you're ever gonna run into anything wet, sloppy, or even just rocks with a little mud, get the MT's. I have em and love them. I'm not a big mud fan but its just a fact of wheelin that you're gonna have to tackle some sometime. AT's are a great tire for what they are, dry stuff they are awesome. Even real good on snowy roads. But I do fine in that stuff with my MT's also.

And if you're looking at the MT/R's, consider the Toyo's. I've got a bunch of friends who run the MT/R's and swore by them. One of them switched to the Toyo to try them out and now everyone wants them. Stronger sidewall that bulges more and every bit of good of traction as the MT/R's untill you get to slop or mud and they outperform. Plus they're cheaper.
 
I am just down the road from you and run the AT's in 35" They do well all around other than they are not great on ice. That may be due to the Detroit. I wheel the piss out of them in the rocks and they have held up great, only a few small chunks out of the lugs. I have about 60% tread left and have about 20k miles on them.
 
Bowzer said:
X2, right on Starscream918 :D

My '00 XJ is my DD and only vehicle. Gave it a 3" lift to fit 31"s for ample off road use and good street manners, with reduced drivetrain complications. I use Dunlop Mud Rovers even though it's on the street 70% of the time. I want that 'extra' traction for when I leave the street. DMR's have very good ratings and are comparable to the popular brands, for a lot less $$!
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Oh ya, forgot to mention the DMRs. Those rock. My step-dad had some on his CJ-7 and loved 'em. Kinda noisy, but who cares?
 
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