Battery question

Ben824

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Woodstock, GA
Ok so I tried to see if I can save my yellow top and no luck so I need something new. Autozone carries a deep cycle marine battery that is only 79.99 which is within my budget and I am highly considering it since it is still a deep cycle battery for an affordable price and I like the fact that it has the little post that I can use some wing nuts on for my accessories. But it is only 685 CCA. You guys think that is enough? They have a 1000 CCA marine battery for a little bit more money but it doesn't say online if it is deep cycle it just says dual purpose.
 
1) What procedure did you use to try to restore your Yellow Top?

2) A "dual-purpose" battery is usually a deep cycle that can survive being used as a starting battery (like the Yellow Top,) so that should be fine.)

The difference is that a starting battery is designed to provide a very large current burst for a relatively short period of time, and generally does not like being "pulled down" very low. A deep cycle is designed to provide a relatively low level of current for a long period of time, and generally suffers no ill effects from being "deep-drawn" (nearly or totally discharged) over and over again.

Why do you consider a deep cycle or a dual-purpose necessary to your uses? Just wondering - I'd like to help make sure you're putting in what you actually need...
 
High2by and I also run these under the Co-op Brand label. As a perk they are Made in the USA in Lyon Station, PA. I've toured this plant 2 times and it is a state of the art facility. If my wife wasn't hurt, I'd be going again this fall.

Ed what do they run price wise under the co-op label? I have seen the Sear one posted around NAXJA before. I don't remember the number though. I think it's more then that one too.
 
We retail the 9A78DT AGM (Co-op item number 60580) for $149.99 with exchange.
 
1) What procedure did you use to try to restore your Yellow Top?

2) A "dual-purpose" battery is usually a deep cycle that can survive being used as a starting battery (like the Yellow Top,) so that should be fine.)

The difference is that a starting battery is designed to provide a very large current burst for a relatively short period of time, and generally does not like being "pulled down" very low. A deep cycle is designed to provide a relatively low level of current for a long period of time, and generally suffers no ill effects from being "deep-drawn" (nearly or totally discharged) over and over again.

Why do you consider a deep cycle or a dual-purpose necessary to your uses? Just wondering - I'd like to help make sure you're putting in what you actually need...

The Optima rep on the phone said to drain it, recharge it with a trickle charger and repeat the process 3-4 times and that may help bring it back. Discovered that my battery charger was broken even though it makes noise like its working and gives a spark if u tap the leads together. I got a new charger and put it on the battery and set it to trickle 2A and have been trying to charge it back up which seems to be working as now my radio turns on and the lights aren't nearly as dimmed. But its still up in the air as to if this will work and the battery will hold a charge for more than 24 hours. I run a sounds system, lights, and I would like to get a winch in the near future so deep cycle would be ideal for me but if I absolutely need a battery then I think I am just going to get a Duralast gold since I have had good luck with their products and they live up to their warranties and I don't have to keep track of a receipt.
 
The Optima rep on the phone said to drain it, recharge it with a trickle charger and repeat the process 3-4 times and that may help bring it back. Discovered that my battery charger was broken even though it makes noise like its working and gives a spark if u tap the leads together. I got a new charger and put it on the battery and set it to trickle 2A and have been trying to charge it back up which seems to be working as now my radio turns on and the lights aren't nearly as dimmed. But its still up in the air as to if this will work and the battery will hold a charge for more than 24 hours. I run a sounds system, lights, and I would like to get a winch in the near future so deep cycle would be ideal for me but if I absolutely need a battery then I think I am just going to get a Duralast gold since I have had good luck with their products and they live up to their warranties and I don't have to keep track of a receipt.

That's the way to go about it (I usually use a single headlamp for a "drain load.")

Generally, you're looking at one of two problems when a lead-acid battery starts to head West on you...

- Sulphation. The plates inside start getting coated with lead sulphide (the metal salt of lead and sulphuric acid,) and this inhibits the electron exchange process that makes electricity for you. A good deep draining and recharge can often reverse the reaction that lead to sulphation - "deep draining" being putting a headlamp on until the battery voltage reaches zero (or close to it,) and the recharge should be at 2A - or less.

- Memory. This is known to anyone who owns cordless telephones, cordless shavers, or who has been using cordless electric power tools for any significant length of time. The battery only gets discharged so far, so it begins to think that's all the capacity it has. Restore as above - slow total drain and slow total charge, to break up the memory.

If one full cycle won't do it on a lead-acid battery (liquid, AGM, or gel,) chances are pretty good the battery is wrecked. And, one full cycle is something you should plan a week for - it generally takes a couple of days to drain the thing fully, and then several more to fully charge it. I like to put an ammeter in circuit to monitor drain (so I can get an idea of where the thing is) and charge rates (to make sure it's taking a charge) during the process.
 
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