ba10 trans remove question

snowboard3r411

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ok im starting my trans swap tonight i have never pulled a tranny before. so just woundering what i should do frist. unbolt the tranny from the motor then take the tranny mount and crossmember off. or should i unbolt the cross member and tranny mount support it with a jake then unbolt it from the motor?? any tips or help would be great thanks guys:cheers:
 
Here's how I've always done it.
Remove the t-case and toss it aside. Set a jack under the trans so its kinda holding it. Remove the x-member. Unbolt it from the engine while a buddy and the jack hold it, and carefully lower it to the ground... having an old creeper to set it on is nice. Or you can unbolt the trans from the bellhousing instead of the block which will make it a helluva lot easier to work with, then just pop off the bellhousing.

Depending on what tools you've got around, one way might work better than another... whatever makes sense to you, just go for it. You need to A) Secure the trans so it won't fall when you unbolt it, B) Remove trans from Jeep, and C) Lower it safely to the ground. As long as you're working towards those 3 objectives you're good.
 
mcantar18c said:
Or you can unbolt the trans from the bellhousing instead of the block which will make it a helluva lot easier to work with, then just pop off the bellhousing.

Obviously Mason has never removed a BA 10 or AX 15 from an XJ/MJ..... :D The bellhousing bolts to the gear box INSIDE the bellhousing, it can't be removed from the bellhousing with it bolted to the engine.

mcantar18c said:
Remove the t-case and toss it aside. Set a jack under the trans so its kinda holding it. Remove the x-member.

The t-case may be hard, if not impossible to remove from the transmission without first removing the crossmember and trans mount. The bottom nut on the t-case is in many applications covered by the trans mount - but not all.

First order of business...... loosen the exhaust nuts on the collar that holds the down pipe to the header. This way you won't risk cracking the header when the engine drops backward.

Remove the driveshafts

Drain the transmission and t-case of fluids

Disconnect the hydraulic line from the slave cylinder

Remove center console/shifter boot. Unscrew the insulating rubber boot from the floor, then pull up and remove the round rubber boot on the shifter shaft. Remove 3 bolts holding the shifter in the trans. Pull straight up on the shifter to remove and set aside.

Put a jack under the center of the transmission gear box. Jack it up to remove just a little weight off the trans mount.

Remove 4 nuts holding the trans mount to the crossmember (4 holes at the bottom center of the trans crossmember)

The Comanche crossmember is secured with 4 bolts/nuts per side (XJ only 2 per side) remove those and set crossmember aside.

Remove the trans mount and bracketry. Should be 2 large bolts that screw into the tail end of the transmission. It will likely also be attached to a bushing mount for the exhaust, but not a big deal, just let the bracket drop and twist/pull it away from the exhaust mount.

Remove/un-clip the breather tube and wiring at the connectors that go to the t-case and transmission.

Using a large screwdriver/prybar, separate the linkage rod that goes between the t-case shifter linkage and the t-case. Should just pry out with a little effort.

Then remove the 6 nuts around the tail end that hold the t-case to the transmission. The t-case will generally hold itself in place when all the nuts are off and you may get some fluid dripping when it separates - this is normal. Set the t-case aside.

Lower the jack and allow the trans and engine to rock back and down but keep some weight on the jack. Give yourself enough room to see up along the top of the bellhousing to get to the top bellhousing bolts.

Get a very long extension or several extensions and a universal joint at the end for your socket/ratchet to get to those top bellhousing bolts. Depending on the year, it may have the Torx head bolts, they're size "E-12" torx socket.

Then remove the rest of the bolts holding the inspection cover on the front/lower part of the bellhousing. And then the rest of the bellhousing bolts.

The BA10 transmission is a real lightweight - about 60-70 lbs at most. At this point you can remove the floor jack and just get under the trans. I generally just yank it straight back and drop it onto my chest, then roll it off to one side. But, if you're a little guy.... :D...... you may want to have a buddy help you use the floor jack or a trans jack - one of you help it come loose and hold it steady on the jack, the other to guide and pull/push the jack.

To install the other trans, just reverse the process, however, installing it is a bit more difficult as trying to get the input shaft alligned through the clutch disc and into the pilot bearing can be a bit frustrating. If you're replacing the clutch and pressure plate at this time, the kit should come with an alignment tool. At this time, it's also best to go ahead and replace the slave cylinder/throw-out bearing.

Hope this helps. :thumbup:
 
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Obviously Mason has never removed a BA 10 or AX 15 from an XJ/MJ..... :D The bellhousing bolts to the gear box INSIDE the bellhousing, it can't be removed from the bellhousing with it bolted to the engine.


My bad... last trans I pulled was a J-10 Jeep truck... and that's how we did it lol.
The last AX15 I pulled we left the bellhousing on... I suppose that's why :D
 
hey thanks for the help that is pretty much how i started but anyway heres where im at and i have a couple more questions. i got all brackets and linkages removed the crossmember and tranny mount removed. also im leaving the t case on i well remove it when i get the tranny out. i have all the bolts out of the tranny except the pain in the ass ones up top i could not get the dam things to break loss and not get a good swivle up to it stright. i have a 89 comanche so it should be a 14mm socket right not the torx?? so now heres my few questions the two metal lines coming out of the top left of the tranny is the slave cylender stuff right?? and i well need to refill the clutch master cylender back up cause it drained alot of fluid out??? and also on the transmission bolts is it better to start with the top bolts and go from the bottom?? cause i did all the bottom ones first. and like say i cant get the top ones to break loose. im about to drill some dam holes in the fire wall and get a direct shot to the bolts from the inside lol
 
i have a 89 comanche so it should be a 14mm socket right not the torx??

Yeah, you'd know if they were Torx or not, but generally when they're the standard hex-head bolts, they're 14mm. And yeah, they're usually stupid-tight from the factory. It may help a little to put the lower bellhousing bolts back in to help support the weight/tension so that when you do get those uppers busted loose, the trans/t-case weight doesn't bind it up.


the two metal lines coming out of the top left of the tranny is the slave cylender stuff right?? YES and i well need to refill the clutch master cylender back up cause it drained alot of fluid out??? YES

i cant get the top ones to break loose. im about to drill some dam holes in the fire wall and get a direct shot to the bolts from the inside lol

Short 6-point socket on a universal joint and a long extension is about the only way to get it done. 12-point sockets tend to walk off the bolt head. You'll just have to keep trying...... and yeah, I've seen holes in the trans tunnel before...... :D
 
oh and also what do you guys recommend i fill the tranny with and how many quarts??

Since the BA10 is such a fragile little transmission, I like to use Royal Purple or Lucas Oil products. They really quiet down the gear noise too.

For filling the trans, remove the plug, and if you want to fill it without spilling, just pour into the shifter opening up top. When it comes out of the fill plug hole, you're done. :thumbup:
 
ok thanks yella for all the help. so bassically just install the tranny emptry and fill it from the top once its in the truck?? and also what type of fluid of royal purple do you put in??
 
Royal Purple Synchromax:

http://www.royalpurple.com/manual-transmission-fluid.html

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Or

Lucas Oil 80/90 Heavy Duty:

http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products.sd?iid=43&catid=12&loc=show&headTitle= - Lucas Heavy Duty 80w-90 Gear Oil

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hey i got the tranny out last night was easy i just put the lower bolts back in and unbolted my exhaust so i could get a better angle with the extensions so anyway its on the ground i well post some pics tonight or tomorrow. no my next question is how much dose a salave cylender, throw out bearning, and clutch cost give or take?
 
I just checked at Advanced Auto parts because I'll be doing this same thing soon and it was around $160 and everything you need was in a "Clutch Set" they sold.
 
Clutch disc, pressure plate are the same for all 4.0 applications.

The throw out bearing/slave cylinder will be different for the BA10, the internal AX15 and the external AX15.

The pilot bearing will be different for the BA10, and the AX15.
 
one more question i seperated the t case from the tranny to clean and move around easyier is there a gasket that goose in between the tranny and t case cause there was not one on mine??
 
Nope, no gasket needed really. I believe a thin black one came on 'em from the factory, but it's not needed. All the gasket would do is keep fluid that leaks past the seal (where the input of the t-case goes into the output on the trans) out of the gap between the trans and t-case. If fluid leaks, the output seal is bad.
 
Yep, after cleaning the bearing sliding surface on the input collar, and coating with a light amount of lube (bearing grease). :thumbup:
 
Hey I'm just about finshed just have to put the crossmember back in and the drive shifts but I was woundering, on the lef hand side of the tranny their is a little connecter with two bolts holding it on it looks like a speedo cable what is it???
 
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