anyone try this off of ebay?

[rockwerks]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33597&item=7979074259&rd=1

interesting way to fool the puter, any thoughts

 

[Dr. Dyno]

The 20hp claim is a bunch of horsecrap. Here's the real deal:

http://www.angelfire.com/my/fan/IAT_sensor.html

 

[rockwerks]

The 20hp claim is a bunch of horsecrap. Here's the real deal:

http://www.angelfire.com/my/fan/IAT_sensor.html

granted the 20 hp is bunk Id figure more on the 3 to 4 hp gain , I like the write up waht about those of us who have ditched the stock air box? I run the rusty's and KN combo which picks up a liil better performance in throttle response and highway crusing

 

[Dr. Dyno]

I like the write up but what about those of us who have ditched the stock air box?

I also ditched the stock airbox a long time ago in favour of my homebrew Powerstack FIPK. I have the IAT sensor ziptied to the airtube next to the filter. My heatshield completely isolates the filter from underhood air so the IAT only senses cooler air coming in through the grille.

 

[rockwerks]

I also ditched the stock airbox a long time ago in favour of my homebrew Powerstack FIPK. I have the IAT sensor ziptied to the airtube next to the filter. My heatshield completely isolates the filter from underhood air so the IAT only senses cooler air coming in through the grille.

I guess you could drill t into the fipk tube after the filter. would not be as big of air temp change still significant

 

[JeepSpeed]

Mines drilled into the intake tube after the filter.

 

[Slip Kid]

Yea this is crap, most likely just a resistor. Look at the same item for the other vehicles, all of them have the same names/messages on the buyer feedback. guy's not even a good con.

 

[CSaddict]

Thats exactly what it is. Go spend the 10 cents at Radio Shack and get the same results.

 

[rockwerks]

Thats exactly what it is. Go spend the 10 cents at Radio Shack and get the same results.

Rusty sell his air tube for what 25.00 and its made from like 2.00 in parts does that mean it has no value? I talked to a guy who got one and its a bit more than just a resistor, its wiring, connectors, etc. still not much but it does what it says. overall he has very posative feedback.

 

[Dr. Dyno]

I talked to a guy who got one and its a bit more than just a resistor, its wiring, connectors, etc. still not much but it does what it says. overall he has very posative feedback.

But the 20hp claim is still BS (now it's from a bull instead of a horse ).

 

[rockwerks]

But the 20hp claim is still BS (now it's from a bull instead of a horse ).

well we all know that, hell headers and new exhaust wont give ya 20 hp, like I said moving to the air tube and the resistor setup might be a good thing...tell ya what someone buy it and tell us how its done then we can make our own....which resistor etc.....lol

 

[CRASH]

The 20hp claim is a bunch of horsecrap. Here's the real deal:

http://www.angelfire.com/my/fan/IAT_sensor.html

I don't understand the point of trying to make your motor run rich?

CRASH

 

[tetsulo]

Dino's page says it best...

'The result is increased horsepower/torque if previous airflow-enhancing mods (intake, exhaust) have caused the engine to run lean.'

matthew

 

[CRASH]

Is the mapping of the HO ECU so narrow that it can't handle air and exhaust mods?

Gawd, that Chryco stuff is even crappier than i had previously realized.

The question I have for you guys is, do you test mods with a wide band O2 meter? IF not, how do you know if you are solving a problem, or if you even have a problem?

CRASH

 

[Bloose]

Better question is, how many mods are actually tested on a dyno? I tire of guys saying they picked up Xhp from a mod, or even it feels like Xhp. Put it on a dyno before and after, that is the best way to tell if there is any hp increase. The next best thing (and more fun and cheaper) is to run it at a 1/4 mile track. Only problem with the track is weather conditions can affect results. But it is still better than, I put in a new X and I can definitely feel the increase in HP. You put the money into it and you want it to perform, so it does. The proof is in the puddin.

B-loose

 

[JeepSpeed]

Better question is, how many mods are actually tested on a dyno? I tire of guys saying they picked up Xhp from a mod, or even it feels like Xhp. Put it on a dyno before and after, that is the best way to tell if there is any hp increase. The next best thing (and more fun and cheaper) is to run it at a 1/4 mile track. Only problem with the track is weather conditions can affect results. But it is still better than, I put in a new X and I can definitely feel the increase in HP. You put the money into it and you want it to perform, so it does. The proof is in the puddin.





B-loose

2nd all that.

 

[corbinafly]

I don't understand the point of trying to make your motor run rich?

CRASH

Wouldn't the PCM just read off the O2 sensor readings and adjust the mix accordingly when in closed loop mode? So these PCM "tricks" would only have an affect during warm-up and WOT conditions which are open loop correct?

Is the mapping of the HO ECU so narrow that it can't handle air and exhaust mods?

Or does it actually help because of what CRASH asked above?

K

 

[Dr. Dyno]

Better question is, how many mods are actually tested on a dyno? I tire of guys saying they picked up Xhp from a mod, or even it feels like Xhp. Put it on a dyno before and after, that is the best way to tell if there is any hp increase. The next best thing (and more fun and cheaper) is to run it at a 1/4 mile track. Only problem with the track is weather conditions can affect results. But it is still better than, I put in a new X and I can definitely feel the increase in HP. You put the money into it and you want it to perform, so it does. The proof is in the puddin.

B-loose

It certainly is. I did "before and after" acceleration runs to show that my IAT relocation mod worked for me. The weather conditions were the same both times and I used the same road, so my results are a little more scientific than the butt dyno.

 

[Dr. Dyno]

Wouldn't the PCM just read off the O2 sensor readings and adjust the mix accordingly when in closed loop mode? So these PCM "tricks" would only have an affect during warm-up and WOT conditions which are open loop correct?

Correct. I did my "before and after" runs at WOT.

 

[corbinafly]

Correct. I did my "before and after" runs at WOT.

That's what I thought. At WOT it makes perfect sense. And that's when we need to worry about the correct amount of fuel. Especially on modified systems like ours that are no longer within stock specs.
Thanks for the clarification.

K