35" Tires on a stock Dana 35?

I cannot see why anyone would even put there name out there and say "Do it"

It's proven, the D35 is junk... failure is a matter of when, not if..
When a D35 C-clip goes, It's not as simple as "She's done.. time to swap over!"

Watch a 33 walk away from you as you enter the highway at 50mph, and you will understand what people are saying.. It's not like anything else, where if it fails, pull over and throw a spare in.. there is never a "right time" it will leave you SOL when you least expect it.. and it will likely leave you with poop stains half way down your legs..
 
Ive seen plenty of people running 35's on a C8.25 axle. THERE everywhere. For some reason even the 27 spline 8.25's seem to hold up better then the 27 spline 35's.


I run 33's on my dads TJ D35 (I drive it when the XJ is down) and im pretty sure the spiders are pretty ground up. In an XJ there is really no excuse for running a crappy rear end because its so easy to install an axle under leaf springs.
 
I run 35s on a d35, along with a lot of people in my area I wheel with and in my jeep club. Locked and open, and some of them have been running it for years without any issues. I bag my jeep pretty hard, especially in the snow.. no issues so far.

Yes, granted some d35's will blow up instantly..but from my experience so far, its fine. As long as you know its a weak spot, then you will be ok.

Dont be an idiot and your fine.

Yeah..there is a lot of haters but you need to talk to someone running the setup (beyond me)..not a bunch of guys that have read it on the internet.
another d35 lover... :rolleyes:

The spiders blow up, the axle housing is weak, the carrier is weak, the ring gear and pinion are tiny, the shafts suck, if a shaft blows you will be watching your tire roll away from you and trying to figure out how to put your brakes back together after getting the tire back.

I know of people who have broken d35s on p215s and 32s. I personally know people who have blown them on 225s. Another guy who has blown the spiders up driving it on the street twice with 33s on it, open. These axles just plain suck, why do people try to back them up and say it'll be just fine?

Ive seen plenty of people running 35's on a C8.25 axle. THERE everywhere. For some reason even the 27 spline 8.25's seem to hold up better then the 27 spline 35's.


I run 33's on my dads TJ D35 (I drive it when the XJ is down) and im pretty sure the spiders are pretty ground up. In an XJ there is really no excuse for running a crappy rear end because its so easy to install an axle under leaf springs.
The 8.25, even in 27 spline flavor, has a stronger housing, ring/pinion, spiders, and carrier than the d35, so it puts up with abuse better. At worst you will break a shaft wheeling, instead of having the spiders or carrier/ring and pinion just barf parts everywhere on the street.

I still have a d35 in my MJ, but it is because it is SUA, I haven't welded the perches onto the 8.25 I am installing in it, and I'm doing a 4wd swap and changing the driveshaft length at the same time. Gotta set aside some pretty significant time for that, and I'm real busy right now. It is starting to make some real bad noises so I hope to get this done soonish.

There is NO EXCUSE for running a d35 on an XJ:
* there are much better axles (27/29 spline 8.25s, dana 44s) that bolt right in, so no real fab is required. Prices are usually under 200 dollars at the junkyard. The longest part of the project is getting it out from under the junker in the yard, and bleeding the brakes when you are done.
* if you regeared it already :twak: why the hell did you do that? Now you have stockaxle syndrome and feel like you should defend and further upgrade your turd of an axle instead of dropping an extra hundred bucks on a better axle before gearing/locking (see also "throwing good money after bad"), which actually probably will get you a discount from the guy installing the gears because doing it to an axle on a bench is much easier than doing it to an axle under a jeep.
* you are a rolling ticking timebomb until you get a better axle. It will be "just fine" according to every other guy who has dumped money on his d35 until they blow theirs up, at which point they usually become an anti-d35 type.
* spending hours doing a trail fix on a crappy axle to limp it off the trail so you can fix it right is not my idea of a good time.
 
I blew up three D35's with tire sizes ranging from 31's to 34x9.5, 2 open, one with a full case detroit locker.

it's a crappy axle. I killed one while wheeling, killed another due to stupidity (lack of oil) and the last one before the 8.8 ate 4 teeth from the ring gear on an mild upshift while turning at a stop light.

So how's that for someone with experience vs just reading it on the internet?

Replace it with a bolt in 8.25, or do the 8.8 thing. Both have been covered in detail, just like this topic.
I went 8.8, and it's bombproof.
 
Time to trot this page out again.

FWIW, I ran a D35 with a functional factory Trac-Lok on 31s for a year before my D44 went in. Yeah, it held up, largely because I feathered the gas pedal the entire time it was back there - but I wouldn't call it a good idea to keep it in there indefinitely, and especially not after bigger tyres and/or deeper gears have been thrown onto or into it.

But explosions are always fun to watch :D
 
If you don't have a locker and you really baby it you might get a few weeks out of it but it also might fail in a few miles. I'd seriously look for a better axle asap if you plan to put the 35's on it.
 
i'm another one of the few people who have never broken one. i ran 32" tires on one with a lockright, and beat on it like a retard with a kitten. i eventually sold the jeep, with the same axle in it, but never once had a problem. i also had one with a whiny pinion gear that never actually broke. i don't personally know anyone who has broken one either, but i have heard of a million people who have. i'm currently performing an experiment with a 4 cylinder, 5speed, and a non c-clip 35 to see how long it will last welded with 31's, then 32's, and so forth, as tires wear out. but, i do have a 29 spline 8.25 waiting to be regeared. i already broke the welds once. i'd say put them on, and be ready to call a tow truck or swap in a stronger axle on the roadside if you have to. i'm not ashamed to say that i've never had an xj or mj with any other rear axle, but i've never broken one, and you can ask anybody in the southeast chapter about my driving style. good luck to ya, and i hope that you're not in a hurry to get anywhere when it does break, because it'll make ya late, lol.
 
The dude who owned my jeep before me had been running 35s on a D35 for awhile. I never had any problems with it while the D35 was still back there (ran for about 8 months that way), but I knew it was weak from reading online, and when I'm offroading I drive like an old granny. So if you're just going to the grocery store I'd say it's fine, but anything more and you should definitely look into a 44 or an 8.8
 
i'm another one of the few people who have never broken one. i ran 32" tires on one with a lockright, and beat on it like a retard with a kitten. i eventually sold the jeep, with the same axle in it, but never once had a problem. i also had one with a whiny pinion gear that never actually broke. i don't personally know anyone who has broken one either, but i have heard of a million people who have. i'm currently performing an experiment with a 4 cylinder, 5speed, and a non c-clip 35 to see how long it will last welded with 31's, then 32's, and so forth, as tires wear out. but, i do have a 29 spline 8.25 waiting to be regeared. i already broke the welds once. i'd say put them on, and be ready to call a tow truck or swap in a stronger axle on the roadside if you have to. i'm not ashamed to say that i've never had an xj or mj with any other rear axle, but i've never broken one, and you can ask anybody in the southeast chapter about my driving style. good luck to ya, and i hope that you're not in a hurry to get anywhere when it does break, because it'll make ya late, lol.

big difference between your four squirrels of fury and a 4.0
All of the ones I broke were the supposedly stronger semi-float non-c versions.

Hey, give it a go, I still have three sets of D 35 non c shafts if you want them.

First thing I thought of when I saw this post (again)

http://naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=244831740&postcount=1
 
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big difference between your four squirrels of fury and a 4.0
All of the ones I broke were the supposedly stronger semi-float non-c versions.

Hey, give it a go, I still have three sets of D 35 non c shafts if you want them.

First thing I thought of when I saw this post (again)

http://naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=244831740&postcount=1

i've only had this 4 cyl jeep for a month. before i had a 4.0HO in every other xj/mj.
just sayin.
 
So is the stock Chrysler 8.25-29 spline a direct swap on a Cherokee with a Dana 35? Obviously I will need the u-bolts and bolt plates from the Chrysler axle, but how do the drive lines work out?
 
I want to say the 8.25 drive shaft is 1 inch shorter then the D-35 drive shaft. The good news is, if you have enough lift to accommodate 35"s, properly bump stopped for the tires, you won't have a problem. While the D-35 shaft on the 8.25 would be too long at stock height, with 3 or 4 inches of lift and a couple inches of bump stop extension, you should be good to go.
 
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