2 stroke experts?

ChuckstrPT

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I know this is Off Topic, but:
So I've got a small backpack blower.....won't idle...it's killing me. I've got it starting better....this problem began as not being able to start. But now it sounds like I've got the "idle" turned way up, and when it's "de-choked" it dies. I'm at a loss. Any comments????:eyes:
Thanks:wave1:
 
they can be rather temperamental--

new fuel (flush and re-fill with proper mix)
clean, dry plug
clean, new air filter (I've seen them need the restriction to airflow to help create a vacuum in the carb-- poor venturi= less fuel= no idle without choke)

I hate small engine two strokes with a passion. I don't know anything else that can get me cussin' quicker than a ornery weedeater.
 
I have nothing to add. I just saw I guy named "Shorty", posting in a thread about "2 strokes." I should leave, now.
 
If its been sitting for a while (like the pressure washer), I would venture to say the carb would need a good cleaning. It may just be gummed up with old 2 stroke oil. Take it off, take it apart, soak it in gas then go to town with some carb cleaner cleaning out all the little ports. Put her back together then see if she fires.
 
they can be rather temperamental--


I hate small engine two strokes with a passion. I don't know anything else that can get me cussin' quicker than a ornery weedeater.

x2. I've had about all I can take. I actually took it to a small engine place at the beginning of the summer...he didn't laugh at me, but it was close. I've got the cheapo little backpack blower from HD, and he suggested that if I wanted one that would work, I should buy one of his $500 blowers....mine was $140 I think. Anyway, they tuned it up, replaced fuel filter and it ran fairly well for a while. Now...it won't idle. I was thinking vacuum issues too.
In addition, it is surging when wide open....revving good, then drops off...revving back up..and drops off. Haven't had time to take it in again, worked last weekend, worked this weekend...and working both Sat and Sun next weekend....and the leaves are fallin. Yes, this is Frustration with a capital F
Thanks for the help:wave1:
 
If its been sitting for a while (like the pressure washer), I would venture to say the carb would need a good cleaning. It may just be gummed up with old 2 stroke oil. Take it off, take it apart, soak it in gas then go to town with some carb cleaner cleaning out all the little ports. Put her back together then see if she fires.

Yeh I sprayed it down pretty good, without taking it apart....didn't help. Dude, no time to dismantle....Soccer at 2...and I'm still in my jammies:shhh:
 
If its been sitting for a while (like the pressure washer), I would venture to say the carb would need a good cleaning. It may just be gummed up with old 2 stroke oil. Take it off, take it apart, soak it in gas then go to town with some carb cleaner cleaning out all the little ports. Put her back together then see if she fires.

oh yeah, I haven't touched the pressure washer since you were here. And I'd like to use that too....:tears:
 
You should just sell them to me for a nominal fee lol. Id take the Frustration off your hands. If I was closer Id come over and do it for ya but Birmingham is a bit of a drive just for that.
 
Well... I was a two stroke mechanic for a couple big name motocross teams, and I am a Factory certified Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and BMW motorcycle, ATV, Watercraft and a Honda Power Equipment Tech for about 8 years.

I also have two world records with R/C outboard boats (with two strokes). (make sure you watch the whole thing with your speakers on, I built the engine for him.) I am not an expert at much, but its safe to say small engines is my specialty.

Here is my analysis based on what you have given us:

Assuming you have a proper fuel mixture with fresh gas and quality oil.
Assuming you have a decent plug in it with good spark
Assuming you have a clean air filter.

Its cold outside and the air is thin. Its lean.

Thats why its hard to start, and when it does, it revs up (lean fuel mixture), and bogs or dies when at high rpm (lean fuel mixture)

These little engines are about as simple as they get mechanically, but they can also be finicky once you get some wear on the engine which looses its seal. Think of a two stroke as a pump. When the pump (ring gap, crank bearings/seals) start to wear, the pump become less efficient. Thus making the fuel mixture more finicky.

I have a ryobi weed whacker that has got to be 14 year old, and its still stock, but this year she started getting finicky.

Try this:

Your carb will have two spring loaded screws. One screw is the "low speed" needled, and one is the "high speed" needle. They are just what they sound like. The low speed needle controls how much fuel is allowed to mix with the air at lower speeds, and the same for the high speed needle at higher RPMs. If you have a Walbro carb on it, it usually will have a small "L" or "H" designating which needle is which.

The low speed needle is not as finicky when it comes to adjustment, in other words, two full turns on the needle would be a lot of adjustment. The high speed is the opposite, 1/2 turn on the needle would be a lot of adjustment. Got it?

Get it fired up, and start to turn out (to richen) the low speed screw until the idle gets down to a normal two stroke pop. Once you get that sorted, let it warm up, then turn out ( to richen) the high speed needle. You should be able to peg the throttle wide open, and hear the engine clean out but not over rev. Once you get to that spot, make sure it will still idle good, if so you are done. If not, just tweak them both a little at a time until they both work like they should.

If you cant get to the needle screws with it all put back together, you should try turning out the low speed 1 full turn, and the high speed needle about a half a turn out, put it together and try it.

Its actually a VERY simple process, but sound like a lot. If you can get to the screws, you should be able to tune it about 30 seconds after its warmed up.

If this does not help, there is a rubberish diaphragm in the carb which acts as a fuel pump, and they sometimes get holes in them from deterioration. You may need a new diaphragm. But I am 95% sure its lean, due to either fuel mixture of crankcase leaks (wear).
 
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Hey James,
Can I get a signed 8x10? You just might be my new Hero:cheers:
 
I have a ryobi weed whacker that has got to be 14 year old, and its still stock, but this year she started getting finicky.

Ya know this is part of what's killing me. The dumb blower is only 2 season's old, and was "Tuned" by a professional at the beginning of the summer.:passgas:
 
Yea I fool around with the R/C trucks a bit and I agree with James 100% I always change my tune on those due to the season if I am racing and it makes quite a difference. The cold air makes em neede a little more fuel. He's already covered it quite well so I guess I have nothing else useful to add just thought I would give a thumbs up.
 
Ok, no obvious "screws" for adjustments. But I've got these two stacked "knobs" and there is an H near one and an L near one. But they are not screws. It's like solid rod with a notch in it....never seen any adjustment screw like that? I'm thinking those things next to my index finger. The screw near my thumb, bottom of carb, looks like it's an idle adjustment, but it's got me a bunch of nowhere...It looks like it's suppose to influence that throttle arm the cable it attached to, but didn't do a very good job of it.
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and here is a top view of this POS....
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Thanks for all the input!
 
You should just sell them to me for a nominal fee lol. Id take the Frustration off your hands. If I was closer Id come over and do it for ya but Birmingham is a bit of a drive just for that.

If you'd have been here today, I'd have loaded the blower into your truck for you....:viking:
 
Andy, those things are the High and Low speed needles. Thats a newer Walbro carb. Same thing applies, but you may have to use a small pair of needle nose pliers. At least you know which is which now! Those may also be 'caps' that you have to take off with the screw underneath, but I cant say for sure. Try to turn them with a pair of needle nose, but dont force them too much. Since they are not quite as easy to adjust, turn the low speed out about 3/4 - 1 of a turn, and the high speed out about 1/3 - 1/2 of a turn. Put it all back togther, and fire it up. Report back, and I should be able to help fine tune it if it needs. A video would be awesome, but maybe thats not possible.

~James
 
Thanks! We'll see if we can get to this before the kids get ready for bed.:cheers:
How does one post video? I've got means to record video, but have never posted any...:eyes:
 
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