V8 ZJ Tierod Upgrade

mikegronholz

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Location

Fort Worth

• Feb 25, 2008

• #1

i have asked a lot of questions and now i'd like to offer up some knowledge i gained i put the ZJ V8 tie rod assembly on this weekend. Bought it all from O'Reilly for $120 with a lifetime guarantee. This thing is HUGE. Bolted right in with no mods. The bar is 1" solid stock !!! The sterring is very different. it is nice. The slop i felt was apparently my tierod flexing (sure enough, the rod was bent when i took it off). These are probably available at the local pick ' pull for about $10 ... if the joints are good, snatch it up. i just can't describe the difference. Well worth the cash.

 

gradon

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Location

DC

• Feb 25, 2008

• #2

That is now somewhere on my to do list(already did the rear disks). Next up is installing the Taurus fan once I buy the relay, thermo, and wiring. I haven't gotten into that WJ knuckle/big brake upgrade yet either.

 

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89xj

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Location

aston,pa

• Feb 25, 2008

• #3

ive also done the zj tierod swap with 4.5" lift and it made a big difference.

 

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Caribou Lou

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Location

San Diego

• Feb 25, 2008

• #4

Where did you order it from?

 

5.2poweredxj

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Location

Abbotsford, Wi

• Feb 26, 2008

• #5

Got mine from a parts rig that I got the motor from.

 

mikegronholz

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Location

Fort Worth

• Feb 26, 2008

• #6

Mine are MOOG from the local O'Reilly's.

 

magimerlin

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Location

Flatonia, Tx

• Feb 26, 2008

• #7

mikegronholz said:

Mine are MOOG from the local O'Reilly's.

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Mine are from O'Reillys also. Im kinda bias though as I am management at O'Reillys in Houston(by 45 and 1960 area)
Here are the part # I used for mine. They were all moog parts aswell
1 #DS1312 long tie rod, its solid not hollow
1 #DS1238 drag link
2 #ES3096L short tie rod ends(1 by pitman, 1 by outer driver side)
2 #ES2079S adjustment sleeves

 

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XJ Bebop

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Location

San Diego

• Feb 26, 2008

• #8

I'm interested in doing this upgrade as well, but was wondering how hard it would be to find a ZJ tierod.
You say you paid $120?
I'm curious how that compares to something like the Currie (rod only-no TRE's) for $85 or the Rusty's HD unit complete for $99?
(these are replacement tie rods only - for the stock setup. Not parts for their steering 'systems')

How hard is it to find the ZJ rods, and what do they normally sell for?

 

oo7ravisXJ

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Location

San Ramon, Nor-Cal

• Feb 26, 2008

• #9

can you take a picture of the setup for us, is it an inverted y setup or not?

 

magimerlin

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Location

Flatonia, Tx

• Feb 26, 2008

• #10

I'll get a pic tomorrow if Mikegronholz doesn't beat me to it. Here are the walk in prices from O'Reillys all moog's
DS1312 $64.99
DS1238 $100.99
ES3096L $35.99 each
ES2079S $20.99 each

total of $279.94 to do it all (1-DS1312, 1-DS1238, 2-ES3096L, 2-ES2079S)
total of $121.97 with out the drag link setup (1-DS1312, 1-ES3096L, 1-ES2079S)
plus tax if applicable

 

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Blaine B.

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Location

Northwest Indiana

• Feb 26, 2008

• #11

Are ZJ draglinks any different too?

 

IllianaXJ

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Location

Southwest IN

• Feb 26, 2008

• #12

magimerlin said:

Mine are from O'Reillys also. Im kinda bias though as I am management at O'Reillys in Houston(by 45 and 1960 area)
Here are the part # I used for mine. They were all moog parts aswell
1 #DS1312 long tie rod, its solid not hollow
1 #DS1238 drag link
2 #ES3096L short tie rod ends(1 by pitman, 1 by outer driver side)
2 #ES2079S adjustment sleeves

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These part numbers should be the same at Advance Auto as well, just in a TRW box. Little bias here as well :wave:

 

mikegronholz

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Location

Fort Worth

• Feb 26, 2008

• #13

oo7ravisXJ said:

can you take a picture of the setup for us, is it an inverted y setup or not?

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Factory replacement, just bigger ... way bigger ... here are pics ... my hand is there to give reference in bar thickness ...

http://picasaweb.google.com/mikegronholz/XJUnderside/photo#5171288895813902994

http://picasaweb.google.com/mikegronholz/XJUnderside/photo#5171288900108870306

also, as for price, i grabbed one for a buddy at the pick 'n pull yesterday for $12.65 out the door. TREs were ok.

 

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Cox89XJ

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Location

TN

• Feb 26, 2008

• #14

I have a 89 Limited. What year ZJ will fit?

 

mikegronholz

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Location

Fort Worth

• Feb 26, 2008

• #15

any V8 ZJ

 

magimerlin

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Location

Flatonia, Tx

• Feb 26, 2008

• #16

Cox89XJ said:

I have a 89 Limited. What year ZJ will fit?

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Mine is an 89 aswell. So just use the p/n I listed.

 

magimerlin

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Location

Flatonia, Tx

• Feb 26, 2008

• #17

Blaine B. said:

Are ZJ draglinks any different too?

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Mine needed replacement at the same time so I got the ZJ one. They (my original and the ZJ) looked the same.

 

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89xj

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Location

aston,pa

• Feb 26, 2008

• #18

89xj said:

ive also done the zj tierod swap with 4.5" lift and it made a big difference.

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forgot to mention, this was on my 89.

btw, it doesnt matter what year(87-01)xj you have, they all have the same steering components.

 

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SgtJCJ

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Location

Tacoma, WA

• Feb 26, 2008

• #19

Anybody that's done this have any calipers? What diameter are the ZJ bars?

 

magimerlin

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Location

Flatonia, Tx

• Feb 26, 2008

• #20

SgtJCJ said:

Anybody that's done this have any calipers? What diameter are the ZJ bars?

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The tie rod is 1" thick and is solid not hollow. is is on a 3" lift(not that it will matter what size lift you run) Here are my pics and yes I know I need a new oil pan. I'm replacing it when I do the rear main seal.