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Old April 8th, 2010, 22:13
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454 zz502 cam injectors custom tune MSD 6AL etc etc
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18 empty 14 with the jeep on the back@ 80+
i didnt think the 454 could get that good of mileage. we have the same 454 vortec in our 96 suburban and get like 13 highway, stock, and empty. easily in single digits towing. but we also have used a hypertech power programmer on it to get a little more power.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 01:13
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Just a question to those of you that tow with an s10, Dakota, Durango, and other similar sized small SUVs that weighs about the same as a XJ on a flatbed trailer. WTH are you thinking? The XJ+trailer combo does out weigh your tow rig. In the towing world that = bad things in stopping and handling an emergency maneuver. Flat towing on the other hand is okish IMO with an equal or grater than vehicle.
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I tow with a '95 F250 XLT 7.3L turbo diesel. sorry no pics from work
I'm with you. Towing a car hauler with less than a 1/2 ton just doesn't sit well with me. I know plenty of people get away with 1/4 tons (and sometimes unibody ones nonetheless) but even with my 1/2 ton I still wanted the overkill and that's when I got my 7.3. To each his own, but more than the engine the short wheelbase of my Tahoe is what made me nervous (along with the brakes, but plenty of 1/2 tons have great brakes now). But to recommend flat towing? Particularly with off-road vehicles with large and probably abused tires, I'd rather tack on the 1500-2000# of a car hauler than risk having a tire blow out on the rig being flat towed. I wouldn't even recommend someone use a tow dolly. For an off-road rig, it's trailer or nothing.

warwagon98xj is right though, at some point your load outweighs your truck, and that's fine as long as it's capable of pulling it. Look at a F-250 where curb weight is 6000-6500# but gross combined weight is 20k.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 03:09
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Old April 9th, 2010, 06:42
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how does that work with a big rig the tractors are lighter than the trailers i have a fifth wheel i tow with my 03 powerstroke weighs 9900 gvwr= more than the truck
The difference is that bigrigs and 3/4 ton+ trucks a specifically designed to pull loads. They get upgrades such as axle, springs, brakes, engines, tires etc. to manage these loads. A 1/4 ton truck is designed to be light utility not a tow rig. Same principles as our XJs they are designed to handle fireroads and some decent trails but you aren't going to take a stock XJ and wheel every trail at Moab.

Point is: your 1/4t might pull it and might be able to pull it fast but it doesn't have the back-up systems for the whole task.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 08:43
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New: '09 F150


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I need a new trailer.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 08:54
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i dont have any new pics, but its current state is 6+3, 37's, 5.3L, 5.13's, pcm tune, and the xj is running 4.5", 34 ltb's, 4.88's truetrac in th 30, and a spool in the 44,
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I need a new trailer.
or smaller tires...did somebody fool you into thinking you had a monster truck?
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Just a question to those of you that tow with an s10, Dakota, Durango, and other similar sized small SUVs that weighs about the same as a XJ on a flatbed trailer. WTH are you thinking? The XJ+trailer combo does out weigh your tow rig. In the towing world that = bad things in stopping and handling an emergency maneuver. Flat towing on the other hand is okish IMO with an equal or grater than vehicle.
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I tow with a '95 F250 XLT 7.3L turbo diesel. sorry no pics from work
The dakotas are rated at 6100 towing capacity. Your XJ on a trailer is about that or maybe little less or a little more...its not grossly over loading it. Use a weight distribution hitch and I think its safe. In fact I think its way safer than flat towing...

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or smaller tires...did somebody fool you into thinking you had a monster truck?
Not sure I understand that comment.
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On the way home from 25th anniv. event in Moab. Set the cruise at 75mph (once we left CA) and got over 15mpg. Scaled her the day we left at over 17k lbs.

I can run circle around almost anyones mileage. Power to spare also (intake, exhaust, bigger injectors, fuel plate, bigger turbo, etc.)

Too bad the plates covered in snow, it says BOMBED
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The dakotas are rated at 6100 towing capacity. Your XJ on a trailer is about that or maybe little less or a little more...its not grossly over loading it. Use a weight distribution hitch and I think its safe. In fact I think its way safer than flat towing...

mac 'out the door with the f450 towing to the badlands' gyvr

the S-series (blazers, jimmys, s-10, s-15, envoy, etc) are rated at or around 5,000. the XJ weight at around 3000 give or take, plus trailer so I'd say right at 5,000 and its not at bad if i dont go too fast. actually my dads stock blazer's handling is way better than my blazer because the smaller tires, HOWEVER my modded blazer have a ton more power than his does (can pull up hills without redlining the engine)
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On the way home from 25th anniv. event in Moab. Set the cruise at 75mph (once we left CA) and got over 15mpg. Scaled her the day we left at over 17k lbs.

I can run circle around almost anyones mileage. Power to spare also (intake, exhaust, bigger injectors, fuel plate, bigger turbo, etc.)

Too bad the plates covered in snow, it says BOMBED
That's a BIG bumper on the front of that Ram.
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That's a BIG bumper on the front of that Ram.
It is a counter balance for the trailer tongue weight.
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i didnt think the 454 could get that good of mileage. we have the same 454 vortec in our 96 suburban and get like 13 highway, stock, and empty. easily in single digits towing. but we also have used a hypertech power programmer on it to get a little more power.
do injectors and a wait4me or lackbear tune...hypertech is JUNK!
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Old April 10th, 2010, 00:26
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Re: What are you towing with?

we dont drive it enough to justify any mods haha. very rarely tow with it as of right now
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