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Old April 8th, 2011, 19:42
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would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

Hey Guys,

New Guy Here. Been searching, reading and learning for about 5 weeks now during my search for my first XJ. Thank you all for the limitless resource of information. You Guys/Gals are GREAT! Smart enough to due research on other newbie's questions before I start askin stuff that's been covered time and time again. Always wanted an XJ, have had many friends with 'em, never owned one myself. Gonna Buy tomorrow... Maybe?

I have personally inspected 16 XJ's now and turned most down, Lost 2 due to price. Finally found one I can afford and seems to fit what I want.

Would like to hear from you "experts out there" Here we go..

Would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 with an "Intermittent Stutter/Miss" that has had replaced : O2 sensor, battery, alternator, harmonic balancer, serpentine belt and TPS sensor "cheap one from Napa/whatever"... ???

I've read the posts: Don't buy the cheap TPS, Buy the Good one from JEEP, and I plan to. It could very well be the problem still. Also could just need a "tune-up" Plugs "champion", cap, rotor and wire set... Plan on doing that anyway. Maybe it's the "CAT"? Could use some seafoam??? Might just be wrong/bad battery? Worst case scenario New fuel pump?

Am I missing anything here? Should I be scared of this JEEP? What really is the worst case scenario for this issue?

Like I said... would love to hear from the experts.

Just don't want to get Burnt on my first one.

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Old April 8th, 2011, 19:49
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

I would ask to do a compression test and go from there. If it has fairly even compression, and the plugs don't show any coolant, you have something to work with.

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Old April 8th, 2011, 19:55
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

Compression test eh? Could this be a cracked head? possibly?
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Old April 8th, 2011, 20:05
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

I would buy a 99 with that mileage no problem, I would bargain down hard though

studder could be fuel pressure or ignition, my guess is fuel pressure. Unlikely to be anything else you listed.
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Old April 8th, 2011, 20:07
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

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I would buy a 99 with that mileage no problem, I would bargain down hard though

studder could be fuel pressure or ignition, my guess is fuel pressure. Unlikely to be anything else you listed.
I agree, a 99 with 140k is a nice little rig.
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Old April 8th, 2011, 21:34
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

Thanks Guys. Just needed some reassurance. Thought I found a good deal. Can't wait to post my fixes/solutions to help others like you'all have helped me. Cheers!
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Old April 8th, 2011, 23:52
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

My 135k mile Heep with a "intermittent stutter/miss" turned out to be a head gasket. Not to scare you off or anything.
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Old April 9th, 2011, 00:57
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

That would be ok. Not so.scary. I thoughy I had all the bases covered maybe missing a few?

Now i'm starting to find some real horror stories about valves, cylinder heads and complete rebuilds to fix the problem. Wondering if these people are getting scammed by the shop or if this could really be a very serios problem?

Thanks for your reply.
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Old April 9th, 2011, 03:53
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

It would help if we knew what the asking price was. Price of course, is a very important part of the buying equation!

As for the year, the 1999 is an EXCELLENT year.

As for the miss, as mentioned....could be ignition, could be fuel, could be something a little more serious, but the odds are with you that it probably isn't a big deal. But of course, you wouldn't know until you dig in. Without a proper tuneup (job #1), and or diagnosis, we are just guessing.

I do like the idea of running a compression test on all cylinders, unless the price is so cheap that you could afford to put a major repair into it and still be okay with the total of the cost of the vehicle and the repair.

Good luck!
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

Not to be a nay-sayer and certainly buying a fixer upper can save a lot of money. That being said, it can also be more money and trouble than its worth. If its not fixed, why didn't the present owner fix it? There's a lot of risk here,... of course depending upon price as mentioned above. If its too good to be true, it probably is. No one "gives" anything away these days particularly given the economy. As I found out when I was younger there are plenty of unscrupulous people out there who will charm you into thinking you are getting a great buy when in fact they are unloading their troubles on you. Just saying,... don't be a victim. I'd rather spend a little more money up front and buy a Jeep that is running properly from the get-go than spend less and not know what it is that I'm getting into. It would be foolish not to plan for the worst-case scenario with this Jeep. If you can deal with that, than go for it. If not, I'd back away slowly and then break into a run. Just food for thought.

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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

Price is $2500

I'm thinking if it were a more serious problem than the stutter/misfire would be constant not intermittent. I will definitely examine the wires and cap to see if there new or not.

Also, what do you think about the tailpipe paper test?
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

This is all great info. Want to explore the good and the bad.
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

I would be more worried about the condition of the body (rust or previous damage) than the ignition. I'd scan it for OBD codes before purchase as well. Some people ignore the check engine lights, and randomly throw parts at problems, so there's a slim chance the Jeep will tell you what's wrong, even if the owner can't.

It's a used car, so go over it as thoroughly as you can- comp/leakdown test, fuel system pressure, scan the codes, check the fluids carefully, etc. Good luck!
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

Well I guess if worse comes to worse... I can always part her out for more than I'm paying 'eh?

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Old April 9th, 2011, 07:38
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Re: would you buy a '99 4.0 4x4 140k?

I say go for it and follow the above advice including comp check(after it is warmed-up). As these Jeeps continue to age, the most important thing I look for when buying is the body--everything else can be fixed and replaced. Get on your back and look at the floorpans under the driver's and passenger's side. If you see rust, ask the owner to let you take off the kick panel, sill plate, and pull back the carpet(if so, definitely a bargaining point). They usually rust from the inside out so the windshield, door molding, blower motor, or antenna is leaking. When you get it, do the tuneup, clean and tighten all grounds. Remove, clean and tighten the coil. Unplug, clean, and replug all sensor connectors. Take off the TB, remove IAC and Map, and clean the ports. BG44K in the tank, Seafoam from the brake booster hose(don't be afraid to use the whole bottle and let it sit for an hour). If the owner can't tell you when the Upstream O2 was replaced, get yourself a new Bosch. What else. . .oil in the air filter--take off the ccv hoses and spray and blow w/ compressor. You should be able to pull the rear one off the intake manifold and blow into it but not be able to suck while it's still connected to the valve cover. If miss is still there, you might need to verify that the cam sensor in the dizzy is clocked correctly. Yada, yada. . .
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