I'll see what happens, that's the way it always seems to be on my jeep, always trying somthing new. I have had problems with Optimas in the past with draining to low and bad recovery. This was after trying the gel cell thing on my CJ and having problems charging at too high rate and bulging them and shortening there life. So now I am trying the Odyse. They have worked well in many off road race trucks and buggys, but they are always replaced with new ones for one reson od another just like most other items in the trucks. I have noticed the post want to spin, but this is mentioned with the battery and I always hold the post when putting on or taking off the cables, the only thing I don't like about it so far is how much the post and conector are axposed, I need to come up with some kind of cover.