3 link 4 link Potato potaaahto semantics?

[Beezil]

yeah, I have a mono link too.

I'm wondering if I should go long arm on it or not.

 

[XJJPR]

Pantsuit girl tested it for me. She'd never experienced a link that large.

CRASH

Is that new mono arm going to be a strap on also?

Man this really needs to be in another forum!

hinkley

 

[CRASH]

Drop brackets are the only way to go with a Mono-link.

Mrs. Crash TIGed it right to the NV4500 case.

CRASH

 

[Beezil]

someone wake me up when we get to the den.

 

[TOZOVR]

What if I use Glue?

Not for affixing said links, but for sniffing to get all these new ideas....


I understand each system and how they work and why they're used, but it was the semantics of the names...I was just curious why Clayton called his a 3 link etc...


"Damn, looks liek I picked the worng week to stop sniffing glue...."

 

[BajaXJ92]

I never considered the trac-bar a link, but I can deal w/ that I suppose. :cheers:

The only thing I would call a 3-link is the rear of a WJ w/ the A-arm setup. It does attach to only 3 places on the axle. :dunno:

 

[TOZOVR]

Here's a True three link by everyone's definition I'd say...$afari Gards setup for the Rangies and Discos....

Two Arms that link the frame to the axle, then a Third from the Crossmember on the frame that goes to the new X member on the Axle to control pinion angle...

Yes?

the center link...

the center link and the Pass Side locating arm...

front axle with cradle/x-member with Pass Side arm...

...same as last one but Driver's side...also see the pipe running on the you use to run the ARB Air line

view from front of the radius arm curling upon the front of the axle

front X member/cradle with tie rod running thru for protection (the Rovers have the steering rod behind the axle...)

just another view

This makes sense to me as a three link and also shows why my Clayton setup is a 2 link.

 

[Ed A. Stevens]

Does this mean if I drive wearing a fake Rolex with metal twist-o-flex watchband purchased in Ensenada I have 36 links, and I have the coolest ride on the planet, or do I have a stock 4 link with track bar and a cheap watch?

BTW, Linc was the name of a guy on Mod Squad (He was way cool)!

 

[CRASH]

Does this mean if I drive wearing a fake Rolex with metal twist-o-flex watchband purchased in Ensenada I have 36 links, and I have the coolest ride on the planet, or do I have a stock 4 link with track bar and a cheap watch?

BTW, Linc was the name of a guy on Mod Squad (He was way cool)!

It means you are the missing link.

CRASH

 

[C-ROK]

This is also 3 lynx:

Unless the images don't come through, then we would have some missing lynx. Or maybe just some missing links to lynx.

 

[CRASH]

Oh my.....Greg is learning the way of the Jedi shiit talker.

Must be spending time in the Den.

CRASH

 

[Beezil]

Link to the Den

Link to the Den

Link to the Den

 

[C-ROK]

Hey, if you use chains for limiting straps, can you count those links too?

I think I'm swapping my straps over this weekend. I figure if I use 5/16" chain I could get a 104 link system. That's including the panhard ofcourse, since I always count it.

 

[TOZOVR]

Hey, if you use chains for limiting straps, can you count those links too?

I think I'm swapping my straps over this weekend. I figure if I use 5/16" chain I could get a 104 link system. That's including the panhard ofcourse, since I always count it.

Speaking of chains...I'm naked....again

 

[Root Moose]

Panhard bars (track bars) are not considered links because they do nothing to control the geometry in the the side view plane. They only control side to side motion (if "properly" designed) and have nothing to do with the anti's or roll and instant centers.

So, D90, G-wagen, early Bronco etc. are two link (i.e. radius arms) plus Panhard, XJ front is 4 link plus Panhard, etc.

HTH

r@m

 

[1aussieflexj]

all right you fellas have way to much time on your hands or you have your hands on something for to long not sure which !

 

[C-ROK]

Panhard bars (track bars) are not considered links because they do nothing to control the geometry in the the side view plane. They only control side to side motion (if "properly" designed) and have nothing to do with the anti's or roll and instant centers.

That's not all exactly true. The track bar does indeed contribute to the location of the roll center. Where the track bar crosses the centerline of the vehicle determines the virtual intersection point for the roll axis in the horizontal (side view) plane.
Track bar suspension designs often lends themselves to lower roll centers when compared to "traditional" wishbone and four link designs.
The track bar system also maintains approximately the same "dynamic" roll axis. That is to say that the roll center is less affected by body roll than with other link system designs.

Why they are or are not considered in the link count, I don't know.

 

[XJJPR]

You guys are startig to make this thread sound important again!



hinkley

 

[vintagespeed]

Here's a True three link by everyone's definition I'd say...$afari Gards setup for the Rangies and Discos....

Two Arms that link the frame to the axle, then a Third from the Crossmember on the frame that goes to the new X member on the Axle to control pinion angle...

Yes?

This makes sense to me as a three link and also shows why my Clayton setup is a 2 link.

That is so :rainbow:, what's up with Rover owners?

-jb