ConnorMann
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XJ Floor Pan Rusted Floors FAQ
Weeks of research and here we are...
Pan Sheet Metal
- Stock sheet metal is 20g.
- 18g to make it easier to weld, the main concern with the thickness is if you are welding it in, the thinner it is the tougher it is to weld
- You can get small 18x18 16 ga squares at places like Lowes or Menards
- Sheet metal screws to hold the panels in place while welding them up
- Sherman Parts out of Michigan. Replacement pans. http://www.shermanparts.com/page.php?c=shop&p=new_products&id=14
-Genuine OEM Front Floor Pan For 1984-01 Jeep Cherokee
http://www.discountjeepparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/3121_3123_3136/products_id/23946
-seal up the seams with roofing tar, spray both the interior and undercarraige with krylon rust elimnator spray.
Rust removal
- Harbor freight 18 ga Gauge Shear or Nibbler, Saws all, aircraft snips
-I would recommend a wire brush on an angle grinder. If you do not have an angle grinder you are going to need one. You can get a cheapo from harbor freight if you just want to get through this project.
Welding
-Hobart 135 and Lincoln 255 the Hobart was much better suited to a good
023 wire and C 25 gas
-Spot and Stitch Welder Set With Rods http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/...DUCT&iMainCat=608&iSubCat=613&iProductID=1172
Screwing
- Little sheet metal screws hex head ones with self-drilling tips
- They will draw the metal down nice and tight, with less initial work, and you then have the choice of leaving them in or simply unscrewing them
- Whether or not you expect to be fording any streams. You can also just skip the welding and hold the patches with screws they'll probably last just about as long as welded ones
- Just pick a reasonable size (3/16's) and about 1-1/2" spacing for flat areas closer for curves
Carpet or Not
- CASCADE TG-1(1G) THERMAGUARD HEAT SHIELD COMPOUND 1 GAL for the money it's 100% better than any other dampening product http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=268-232
- Hy-Tech Insulating Paint http://www.hytechsales.com/index.html
-Second Skin http://www.secondskinaudio.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi
- Rhino lining or LineX. LineX is probably the toughest stuff out there.
-I plan to replace carpet with the Vinyl replacement this summer. IMO, it would be just a little easier to clean than Rhino, and easy on the wallet. I haven't decided on adding a sound deadening layer though. God knows I can hear every squeak, creak, and rattle
- Heavy-duty, 1/8" thick, black vinyl, custom molded to fit your vehicle's floor pan $170
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...Browse/s-10101
Carpet and Vinyl flooring http://www.auto-interior.com/jeep1.htm
ConnorManns Completely unskilled mechanics floorboard replacement
Material
Cut rusted areas out with harbor freight 18 gauge metal shears $29.99
Grind rust out harbor freight angle grinder $17.99
Permatex rust treatment $13.00
Sheet metal panels of various sizes from Lowe’s 22ga because did not have 20ga.
Sheet metal self drilling screws #8 x ½, #8 x ¾, #8 x 1, #8x 1 ¼ $10.00
Tube of Roofing Tar $1.77
How
Covered as many flat areas as possible
Bent sheet metal to conform to side of transmission tunnel,
I could not have done this with 16 ga
Overlapped sheet metal where possible
Put down thick bead of roofing tar from caulk gun
Note to self: make sure all pieces fit before applying roofing tar
Screwed all pieces down
Painted inside and out with Rustoleum
Sprayed 3m undercoating under XJ
Perfect Floorboard Treatment
Nothing to absorb water…will dry quickly
1. Por -15 or other rust treatment
2. Bedliner paint or rustoleum paint to seal floor
3. Refectix insulation from lowes or home depot (call ahead)
Does not absorb water
Heat and sound protection
Velcro to floor
3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive as primer then paint if wanted
4. Vinyl liner in place of carpet
5. Rubber driver and passenger floor mats
Good Luck and hope this helps!
ConnorMann
Weeks of research and here we are...
Pan Sheet Metal
- Stock sheet metal is 20g.
- 18g to make it easier to weld, the main concern with the thickness is if you are welding it in, the thinner it is the tougher it is to weld
- You can get small 18x18 16 ga squares at places like Lowes or Menards
- Sheet metal screws to hold the panels in place while welding them up
- Sherman Parts out of Michigan. Replacement pans. http://www.shermanparts.com/page.php?c=shop&p=new_products&id=14
-Genuine OEM Front Floor Pan For 1984-01 Jeep Cherokee
http://www.discountjeepparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/3121_3123_3136/products_id/23946
-seal up the seams with roofing tar, spray both the interior and undercarraige with krylon rust elimnator spray.
Rust removal
- Harbor freight 18 ga Gauge Shear or Nibbler, Saws all, aircraft snips
-I would recommend a wire brush on an angle grinder. If you do not have an angle grinder you are going to need one. You can get a cheapo from harbor freight if you just want to get through this project.
Welding
-Hobart 135 and Lincoln 255 the Hobart was much better suited to a good
023 wire and C 25 gas
-Spot and Stitch Welder Set With Rods http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/...DUCT&iMainCat=608&iSubCat=613&iProductID=1172
Screwing
- Little sheet metal screws hex head ones with self-drilling tips
- They will draw the metal down nice and tight, with less initial work, and you then have the choice of leaving them in or simply unscrewing them
- Whether or not you expect to be fording any streams. You can also just skip the welding and hold the patches with screws they'll probably last just about as long as welded ones
- Just pick a reasonable size (3/16's) and about 1-1/2" spacing for flat areas closer for curves
Carpet or Not
- CASCADE TG-1(1G) THERMAGUARD HEAT SHIELD COMPOUND 1 GAL for the money it's 100% better than any other dampening product http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=268-232
- Hy-Tech Insulating Paint http://www.hytechsales.com/index.html
-Second Skin http://www.secondskinaudio.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi
- Rhino lining or LineX. LineX is probably the toughest stuff out there.
-I plan to replace carpet with the Vinyl replacement this summer. IMO, it would be just a little easier to clean than Rhino, and easy on the wallet. I haven't decided on adding a sound deadening layer though. God knows I can hear every squeak, creak, and rattle
- Heavy-duty, 1/8" thick, black vinyl, custom molded to fit your vehicle's floor pan $170
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...Browse/s-10101
Carpet and Vinyl flooring http://www.auto-interior.com/jeep1.htm
ConnorManns Completely unskilled mechanics floorboard replacement
Material
Cut rusted areas out with harbor freight 18 gauge metal shears $29.99
Grind rust out harbor freight angle grinder $17.99
Permatex rust treatment $13.00
Sheet metal panels of various sizes from Lowe’s 22ga because did not have 20ga.
Sheet metal self drilling screws #8 x ½, #8 x ¾, #8 x 1, #8x 1 ¼ $10.00
Tube of Roofing Tar $1.77
How
Covered as many flat areas as possible
Bent sheet metal to conform to side of transmission tunnel,
I could not have done this with 16 ga
Overlapped sheet metal where possible
Put down thick bead of roofing tar from caulk gun
Note to self: make sure all pieces fit before applying roofing tar
Screwed all pieces down
Painted inside and out with Rustoleum
Sprayed 3m undercoating under XJ
Perfect Floorboard Treatment
Nothing to absorb water…will dry quickly
1. Por -15 or other rust treatment
2. Bedliner paint or rustoleum paint to seal floor
3. Refectix insulation from lowes or home depot (call ahead)
Does not absorb water
Heat and sound protection
Velcro to floor
3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive as primer then paint if wanted
4. Vinyl liner in place of carpet
5. Rubber driver and passenger floor mats
Good Luck and hope this helps!
ConnorMann