XJ and Toy-hauler

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DaddyGreenGenes

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Does anyone have a toy-hauler type trailer that they pull with their XJ? I'm looing at a 16' Dune Sport, and I'm trying to see what kind of gross weight my XJ can handle.
 
I didn't tow a tow hauler but a regular 23' RV. I think my gtw was about 4800 loaded if I remember correctly. If you have an HO you can safely pull 5000lbs with the proper equipment. Mine was slow on the hills with the 31's and 3.55's, but I just took my time and didnt try to pull my Jeeps guts out. I would highly recommend a transmission temp gauge if you live where there's alot of hills. I was told that the aw4 don't like to get to hot
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The day I brought my YJ home. Just a tad over weight this day but problem.
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Resized pic but you get the idea.

Dave
 
Theres no way I would tow that much,my pop-up weighs in at just over 3000# fully loaded(and it has brakes) and its all the XJ can handle.I almost lost ALL my brakes dropping into Telluride a couple years ago.Had to take it ALOT slower coming back down the Million Dollar Highway!
 
Phx, what kind of brakes are you running? Also, did you have a weight distributing hitch and sway control? Obviously you had a brake controller, but enlighten me on your overall setup if you don't mind. The last thing I want to do is buy too much trailer, but the bigger toy haulers have way nicer options...
 
Brakes are stock(less improved rotors/pads).I dont need an equalizer hitch,but I do run sway control.It pulls nice,its just braking on long/steep downhills!
 
RCP Phx said:
Theres no way I would tow that much,my pop-up weighs in at just over 3000# fully loaded(and it has brakes) and its all the XJ can handle.I almost lost ALL my brakes dropping into Telluride a couple years ago.Had to take it ALOT slower coming back down the Million Dollar Highway!
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I think the difference we have here is tent trailer brakes are to small. I had a 12' flagstaff tent trailer before the 23' RV and it to stopped like crap! IIRC mine had some sort of little 6" shoes and little tinny magnets about the size of a silver dollar. The 23' RV had regular duel 2500lb torsion axles with brakes on both not sure of drum size though. And the 24' flat bed had duel 5k axles with duel brakes with 12" drums. At any time I could lock up ether trailer with any load no matter what.

Some kid pulled out in front of me one day and I was traveling maybe 45-50 with the flat bed. I was towing it with my power stroke with another crew cab power stroke on the trailer. The kid panicked and stopped right in front of me! I got the whole mess stopped in my lane before I hit him in his little rice turd. My wife's eyes looked like a whoot owl.

Dave
 
Why not get a tow vehicle that can tow your trailer/xj?
 
I'm not interested in spending thousands on another truck when I've got a perfectly capable XJ already. Plus, I've already put about 15k into said XJ and don't have the funds to mess with something else. If I bought a different tow vehicle, I couldn't afford the toy hauler.
 
Plus, this is an XJ forum, not a "buy a different tow vehicle" forum. Plus, I think BoringDave figured out the issue. This toy hauler is built like an RV and not like a pop-up. Dual axles and full-size electic brakes will surely make a difference.
 
Well the brakes on my trailer are 10"(its a 2007),so they are as big as the brakes on the XJ!
 
BoringDave said:
I think the difference we have here is tent trailer brakes are to small. I had a 12' flagstaff tent trailer before the 23' RV and it to stopped like crap! IIRC mine had some sort of little 6" shoes and little tinny magnets about the size of a silver dollar. The 23' RV had regular duel 2500lb torsion axles with brakes on both not sure of drum size though. And the 24' flat bed had duel 5k axles with duel brakes with 12" drums. At any time I could lock up ether trailer with any load no matter what.

Some kid pulled out in front of me one day and I was traveling maybe 45-50 with the flat bed. I was towing it with my power stroke with another crew cab power stroke on the trailer. The kid panicked and stopped right in front of me! I got the whole mess stopped in my lane before I hit him in his little rice turd. My wife's eyes looked like a whoot owl.

Dave
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I say your "Nucking Futs",before I bought my trailer,I borrowed a couple to go to the races(PIR) for a couple seasons.Its 26 miles one-way,flat land and on the freeway(no street traffic if avoidable).One was a 21' and the other was a 23',both were tandem axles(with brakes),equalizer hitches and sway control.Sure towing was easy,but stopping was basically nerve-wrenching to say the least.There was no way to make an emergency stop unless you follow behind 200'-plus,and thats not going to happen here in Phoenix,9 cars will pull into that slot.

Btw,seeing around a big trailer is almost impossible without huge mirrors that stick out about a foot plus!
 
RCP Phx said:
Well the brakes on my trailer are 10"(its a 2007),so they are as big as the brakes on the XJ!
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I don't understand how unless yours is a toy hauler pop up combo with 15" wheels and the big deck on front. There is no way 10" brakes will fit inside of common 8" pop up trailer wheels.
 
I hear you. Any idea what the loaded weight and GVWR of those two trailers were RCP? And the widths? I'm looking at a trailer between 14' and 16'. Width between 95" and 102". Either trailer has a GVWR of 7000lbs, and I'm maxing out at 5,000lbs. Hopefully that gap means better stopping power...
 
eflores said:
You will learn in time that it's not a great idea to tow near max payload with an xj......
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Why not? Jeep gave it that max trailer weight for a reason. Most likely not because it will tow more but because of warranty issues. So your telling me I shouldn't tow 80,000lbs with my Peterbuilt that's what it's rated for.

I see no difference.

Dave
 
RCP Phx said:
I say your "Nucking Futs",before I bought my trailer,I borrowed a couple to go to the races(PIR) for a couple seasons.Its 26 miles one-way,flat land and on the freeway(no street traffic if avoidable).One was a 21' and the other was a 23',both were tandem axles(with brakes),equalizer hitches and sway control.Sure towing was easy,but stopping was basically nerve-wrenching to say the least.There was no way to make an emergency stop unless you follow behind 200'-plus,and thats not going to happen here in Phoenix,9 cars will pull into that slot.

Btw,seeing around a big trailer is almost impossible without huge mirrors that stick out about a foot plus!
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Also proper working trailer brakes are designed to stop the trailer with a full load wether it's 2,000lbs or 20,000lbs not the tow vehicle. If your having problems stopping with yours you might want to check the output voltage of your controller.

Dave
 
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